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May 8th, 2015, 15:55
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
No they have lied, "flat price"
Lied? How about simply being naive? In the intervening 3 years they had plenty of time to discover that certain ideas can't stand up to the reality. Do you genuinely expected them to stay virtuous and virgin pure and still be in business where there is no room, or mercy, for virtue and virginity? And, with TW and TW2 you can't even accuse them of the lack of trying!

And interesting comment by Varkain to the Polygon article "Green Man Gaming and CD Projekt Red in a public spat over sale of The Witcher 3 codes":
"I’m betting CD Projekt is also annoyed because they offered the game at 40% off ($36) to people who had also purchased the previous 2 Witcher games, and now anyone can get it for just $3 more ($39). It’s sort of an attack on the company’s good will."
and edit:
"Oops, my memory was wrong. They offered it for 20% off ($48). So it’s actually $9 cheaper to get it from GMG now. So I guess my point is even stronger."
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May 8th, 2015, 16:07
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
They offered it for 20% off ($48). So it’s actually $9 cheaper to get it from GMG now. So I guess my point is even stronger."
Not anymore. GMG stopped selling it at that price yesterday. It's $59.99 there now. You can use the voucher on their front page to get 20% off and make it $46.20
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May 8th, 2015, 16:08
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
Lied? How about simply being naive? In the intervening 3 years they had plenty of time to discover that certain ideas can't stand up to the reality. Do you genuinely expected them to stay virtuous and virgin pure and still be in business where there is no room, or mercy, for virtue and virginity? And, with TW and TW2 you can't even accuse them of the lack of trying!
You like your virgins and hookers don't you?

If they are naive, why that misleading marketing statement still there about "fair price" and "world" and all that?
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May 8th, 2015, 16:09
Edit was by Varkain as well.
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May 8th, 2015, 16:13
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
Lied? How about simply being naive? In the intervening 3 years they had plenty of time to discover that certain ideas can't stand up to the reality. Do you genuinely expected them to stay virtuous and virgin pure and still be in business where there is no room, or mercy, for virtue and virginity? And, with TW and TW2 you can't even accuse them of the lack of trying!

And interesting comment by Varkain to the Polygon article "Green Man Gaming and CD Projekt Red in a public spat over sale of The Witcher 3 codes":
"I’m betting CD Projekt is also annoyed because they offered the game at 40% off ($36) to people who had also purchased the previous 2 Witcher games, and now anyone can get it for just $3 more ($39). It’s sort of an attack on the company’s good will."
and edit:
"Oops, my memory was wrong. They offered it for 20% off ($48). So it’s actually $9 cheaper to get it from GMG now. So I guess my point is even stronger."
I dunno it looks more to me that GMG snatched up the keys and are selling them at a loss for a big % off just to spite CDPR for not making a deal with them(Well they did till they changed it).
I'd be a bit annoyed at that too.
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May 8th, 2015, 16:15
Originally Posted by Thorwyn99 View Post
I dunno it looks more to me that GMG snatched up the keys and are selling them at a loss for a big % off just to spite CDPR for not making a deal with them(Well they did till they changed it).
I'd be a bit annoyed at that too.
the latest CDPR comments also suggest that GMG bought them from GOG(!!!) and selling for loss
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May 8th, 2015, 16:16
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
You like your virgins and hookers don't you? ;
Sounds whole lot better then "going from one extremity to another"
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May 8th, 2015, 16:18
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
the latest CDPR comments also suggest that GMG bought them from GOG(!!!) and selling for loss
Have a link to that comment?
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May 8th, 2015, 16:21
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
Have a link to that comment?
We have worked with GMG in the past for Witcher 2 and they were a legit partner.
We control all digital and the codes, and because we decided not to sell Keys to GMG it came as a suprise that they are doing a special promo without buying Keys from us. We have reach out to ask for the source of they Keys but up until now there was no response. They might sell nVidia Keys (which are not to be sold but gifted with the nVidia promo), or they just bough Keys from gog just like a regular customer and now they resell them with a loss (we cannot prevent anyone from selling something).
They also list Bandai Namco as the published which is not true for w3 (namco is our box distributor in PAL), so GMG is not a CDPR partner for Witcher 3 but they still might sell Keys that will work


Read more: http://wccftech.com/cd-projekt-red-g…#ixzz3ZYaU4482
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May 8th, 2015, 16:32
If true why would GMG try to do something like that? Take a loss just to piss off CDPR? Isn't GMG working on quite tight margins?
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May 8th, 2015, 18:22
Cdp is really botching this release. First announcing expansions b4 release, when previously saying all DLC will be free. Promising physical goodies, then reneging on them in the us market. Now this attempt at controlling the marketplace.

And we haven't gotten to the bugs and performance problems yet.
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May 8th, 2015, 18:28
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
If true why would GMG try to do something like that? Take a loss just to piss off CDPR? Isn't GMG working on quite tight margins?
If you don't get a major release because of a petty dispute it's a huge blow to their reputation. They have no choice but to get keys and offer them with their usual discounts.

This is a pro-consumer move. Any such competition is good. I don't get why people are so defensive of CDPR. They're nothing special and are not entitled to anything special, just like you don't get breaks on your taxes or a bigger salary because you're "good".
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May 8th, 2015, 18:30
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
If that is the case, why do they add "just because they reside in a different part of the world" in the same sentence? If we shouldn't over pay the "market" price in our country why talk about the where you live in the world?

A reasonable interpretation of that quote is that we should all pay similar (because taxes) prices regardless of where we live in the world.
If I understand you than you are saying that they are to eat your VAT tax and sell to the whole world at the price they sell to Brazill or Russia?

When I read that I see that they are giving the low value currancies a break and we all pay a similar price in terms of standard of living. But that leaves an area open for shady operaters to exploit it for a buck.
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May 8th, 2015, 18:40
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If I understand you than you are saying that they are to eat your VAT tax and sell to the whole world at the price they sell to Brazill or Russia?
Have you seen the video I linked or read the quote I posted from GOG.com. What do you think they mean? Are they claiming to eat VAT? if not, what do you think they mean by "fair" and "region" price etc?
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May 8th, 2015, 18:41
Originally Posted by Humanity has risen! View Post
If you don't get a major release because of a petty dispute it's a huge blow to their reputation. They have no choice but to get keys and offer them with their usual discounts.

This is a pro-consumer move. Any such competition is good. I don't get why people are so defensive of CDPR. They're nothing special and are not entitled to anything special, just like you don't get breaks on your taxes or a bigger salary because you're "good".
How is this a pro consumer move? They only care about making money, just like everyone else.

GoG is CDPR platform and TW3 is their game, they have all rights to do with it as they please. This is not communism.
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May 8th, 2015, 18:43
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How is this a pro consumer move? They only care about making money, just like everyone else.

GoG is CDPR platform and TW3 is their game, they have all rights to do with it as they please. This is not communism.
Do you even know what communism even mean?
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May 8th, 2015, 18:44
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Do you even know what communism even mean?
Coming from a former communist country, probably more than you.
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May 8th, 2015, 18:45
Originally Posted by Humanity has risen! View Post
I don't get why people are so defensive of CDPR. They're nothing special and are not entitled to anything special, just like you don't get breaks on your taxes or a bigger salary because you're "good".
You don't know what you are talking about. CDPR was not only special but unique among game developers and I'm hoping that they haven't sold their souls to the devil just yet.
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May 8th, 2015, 18:47
Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Coming from a former communist country, probably more than you.
Ah good to know.

CDPR can sell to anyone they like or not to sell to anyone they don't like. However, capitalisms means that those who bought the keys from CDPR can then sell it to anyone they like and CDPR can't do feck all about it
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May 8th, 2015, 18:48
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
Ah good to know.

CDPR can sell to anyone they like or not to sell to anyone they don't like. However, capitalisms means that those who bought the keys from CDPR can then sell it to anyone they like and CDPR can't do feck all about it
No, capitalism means they can do that as long as they are not breaking contracts or laws (which btw is just like in communism but there everything was regulated by the state).
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