My dread of Witcher 3

Originally Posted by wolfing
Guys, this was a JOKE (did you even read the fake screenshot?).

Yes, and a good one too. Well done!!!!

pibbur who will install TW3 as soon as it's released.

Nothing is more scary than people liking something you don't!

Haha, well, you might like TW3 even if you didn't like the previous two

Seems very fishy if they didn't send PC & XBox One review copies. I mean what the fuck. If the game isn't ready what are they doing? I'm starting to regret them not delaying it further. I hope this is just some misunderstanding. But it'll be very awful if the review embargos lift today, and every PC and XBox One site says they didn't receive copies for their wanted platform. I'm curious what the PC Gamer site will do, if they'll publish a review. They usually mention when they do not receive review copies in time.

Yes, it's really fishy that they want to improve the game as much as possible all the way to release.

They've invested everything in this game - and now they want to get the best possible reviews.

It's not rocket science.

Originally Posted by DArtagnan
Yes, it's really fishy that they want to improve the game as much as possible all the way to release.

They've invested everything in this game - and now they want to get the best possible reviews.

It's not rocket science.

Sorry, but I'm not sure I agree. While I understand the idea of wanting to polish something as much as possible before it's being reviewed, if two of the platforms are not a good enough state to handover to reviewers, the game should've just been delayed a third time. Delaying 2 of your platforms because you still have polishing to do sends a very wrong message.

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus
Sorry, but I'm not sure I agree. While I understand the idea of wanting to polish something as much as possible before it's being reviewed, if two of the platforms are not a good enough state to handover to reviewers, the game should've just been delayed a third time. Delaying 2 of your platforms because you still have polishing to do sends a very wrong message.

What delay are you talking about? There's been no delay announced. They just haven't lifted the review embargo for those two platforms.

To have them lift the review embargo a week before release, for just one platform, is a sign of supreme confidence.

You know nothing about the state of the game. They're saying they're doing everything they can to push it as far as they can take it. That says nothing at all about the state, except they believe it can be even better than it is.

Originally Posted by DArtagnan
What delay are you talking about? There's been no delay announced. They just haven't lifted the review embargo for those two platforms.

That says nothing at all about the state, except they believe it can be even better than it is

From what I understand they haven't handed out review copies for Xbox One and PC. Basically PC&XBox can't be reviewed yet.

Sorry but in software development it can always be better than it is. There has to be a definition of done. Of good enough to hand over to reviewers.

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus
I'm curious what the PC Gamer site will do, if they'll publish a review.

They will probably compare it with Skyrim first. The conclusion will be what we already know. Unlike Skyrim, TW3 has a story.

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus
From what I understand they haven't handed out review copies for Xbox One and PC. Basically PC&XBox can't be reviewed yet.

Sorry but in software development it can always be better than it is. There has to be a definition of done. Of good enough to hand over to reviewers.

You're talking as if this was somehow unusual.

The only difference here is that they've allowed the PS4 version to be reviewed a full week before release.

That's rare for a game that's this hyped and with this level of marketing invested in it.

The ONLY reason - and I do mean ONLY reason - to allow reviews this early, is if you're supremely confident in your product.

What's even more relevant, is that they've held back the copies of the games, meaning you can be certain they haven't "bribed" reviewers in any way, or the actual version would be irrelevant.

If you really believe the PS4 version is, somehow, superior to the PC version - then I don't know what to say.

The Xbox One version might suffer some performance issues, but that's par for the course with these multiplatform releases.

I can't see the slightest fishy bit about this announcement, and I can't follow your logic at all.

It's almost as if you WANT it to be fishy, and you're struggling to make it so.

Originally Posted by DArtagnan
You're talking as if this was somehow unusual.

The only difference here is that they've allowed the PS4 version to be reviewed a full week before release.

That's rare for a game that's this hyped and with this level of marketing invested in it.

The ONLY reason - and I do mean ONLY reason - to allow reviews this early, is if you're supremely confident in your product.

What's even more relevant, is that they've held back the copies of the games, meaning you can be certain they haven't "bribed" reviewers in any way, or the actual version would be irrelevant.

If you really believe the PS4 version is, somehow, superior to the PC version - then I don't know what to say.

The Xbox One version might suffer some performance issues, but that's par for the course with these multiplatform releases.

I can't see the slightest fishy bit about this announcement, and I can't follow your logic at all.

It's almost as if you WANT it to be fishy, and you're struggling to make it so.

What's obvious is that the PC & Xbox One versions are not yet ready to be reviewed and thus they're behind quality-wise. That's what's making me nervous. The fact that they still have issues with some of the platform versions which are so important that they can't be delivered to reviewers, and just apply the polishings afterwards. The fact that they may not be just polishes, but important fixes.

I hope it all works out. And as for wanting they to fail, that's pushing it. I've both the game twice (standard + CE) so I'd say I'm heavily invested in it to work out.

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus
What's obvious is that the PC & Xbox One versions are not yet ready to be reviewed and thus they're behind quality-wise. That's what's making me nervous. The fact that they still have issues with some of the platform versions which are so important that they can't be delivered to reviewers, and just apply the fix afterwards.

I hope it all works out. And as for wanting they to fail, that's pushing it. I've both the game twice (standard + CE) so I'd say I'm heavily invested in it to work out.

There's nothing obvious about an irrational conclusion. Just because they believe the other versions can still be improved, it doesn't mean they're behind in quality. They have a few more days to polish and tweak - and they're using it.

They're not saying it CAN'T be delivered to reviewers - that's your biased conclusion.

They're saying they want the best possible version reviewed - and apparently, you think that means the current version is somehow not complete or worthy of release.

I don't know if you believe that these platforms are identical - and that they have the same people working on the code.

If you've ever coded a line in your life, you'll know that there are always ways to optimise and improve - and that hardware will make a huge difference when it comes to finetuning performance.

If they can add that extra bit of visual detail by tweaking a few lines of code - and pushing it to the limit - that's just an added bonus.

But I guess you think that's absolutely impossible, right? The XB1 and PC versions HAVE to be unfinished and unworthy compared to the PS4 version.

I guess time will tell

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus
From what I understand they haven't handed out review copies for Xbox One and PC. Basically PC&XBox can't be reviewed yet.

Sorry but in software development it can always be better than it is. There has to be a definition of done. Of good enough to hand over to reviewers.

I don't see anything strange. They don't want to show xbone because it doesn't look as good, and they don't want to show visual spectacle on PC because it'd undermine PS4 so they're showing the middleware.

Originally Posted by wolfing
I posted this in 'Off topic' because it's a joke about how the forums will be in a week or two, nothing informative about The Witcher 3 so didn't post it there, but guess somebody moved it here. Whatever works.

My comment was more about the bazillion of (future) posts about The Witcher 3. Most of them should be in the Witcher 3 subforums.

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness
Haha, well, you might like TW3 even if you didn't like the previous two

I'll probably try and continue TW1 one of these days. It's not that I hated it at all, I was ok, but then I had one particularly long stretch of gaming in some swamps with lots of fights that I forgot to save, then died and rage quit the game. I think the rage might be low enough (after like 1 year) that I might go back to it. Of course I won't remember anything about what I was doing at that point.

Originally Posted by wolfing
I'll probably try and continue TW1 one of these days. It's not that I hated it at all, I was ok, but then I had one particularly long stretch of gaming in some swamps with lots of fights that I forgot to save, then died and rage quit the game. I think the rage might be low enough (after like 1 year) that I might go back to it. Of course I won't remember anything about what I was doing at that point.

I disliked TW1 but loved TW2, for what it's worth.

After pushing myself through TW1 a year ago, I changed my mind and I now consider it an average RPG.

TW2 is a masterpiece in most ways.

Originally Posted by wolfing
I'll probably try and continue TW1 one of these days. It's not that I hated it at all, I was ok, but then I had one particularly long stretch of gaming in some swamps with lots of fights that I forgot to save, then died and rage quit the game. I think the rage might be low enough (after like 1 year) that I might go back to it. Of course I won't remember anything about what I was doing at that point.

Well, just finish it so you can get to TW2… that one is quite an experience no gamer would forget it after having played it!

Originally Posted by DArtagnan
TW2 is a masterpiece in most ways.

But for the lack of "sex cards".

Every major release for an RPG looks like the thing that Wolfing put up. (good job, btw).
Anywho, it is news……