Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen - Released

Originally Posted by Aditya
Capcom announced that they will support PS4 controller without third-party application and that was really a great catch as well.

How is that possible though? Afaik, the PS4 controller doesn't work in Windows without 3rd-party software.

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guess it sold well, good news; maybe 100k units would be a realistic target from them probably

http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/9/? nice

Would love to see a sequel with the same atmosphere and combat but with more NPC interaction, dialogue and questing ala elderscrolls and witcher.

A pity they didn't give it a full graphical remaster.

I can only imagine how great a sequel would be if it was designed with PC as one of the release platforms.

Other than the writing and crafting that got a bit tedious after many hours, I found it to be a unique and amazing game that was wasted on my crappy ps3.

Originally Posted by Morrandir
One 1 savegame.
*sigh*

That's how it should be! A game's much more immersive when you have to live with the consequences of your actions, as you must in RL.

This game sort of reminds me of Demonicon, with better combat mechanics (that's an understatement) and better graphics.

Keep in mind, I've only played an hour. I was just trying to think of something it reminds me of. A few people mentioned Risen in that light. But it's nothing like Risen at all in my opinion. A lot of people also are comparing it to Dark Souls. That game… and I hear it was good on consoles, but when I bought it for PC, the controls were so bad it was just unplayable. Not sure about the successors to the game, haven't even tried them. I typically like games more for RPG elements than I like games for just being ridiculously difficult.

Originally Posted by Embolus
Been playing it and so far it's exactly how I like my games. There's a learning curve regarding combat and navigating the games menus; I use a gaming mouse and keyboard.. I could just plug in a 360 controller but I shouldn't have to. I overcame the combat curve by binding the combat stances to side mouse buttons, but that doesn't fix the menus. Other than that yeah, high-fantasy fun to be had here.

EDIT I caved and plugged in the 360 controller. Just works better.

I'm playing it with K&M and not having any difficulty. Some of the key mappings are a little weird so I'm going to try remapping them, but I find the controls to not be an issue at all.

I think it depends a lot on what you are used to. Since I always play games with K&M, except for driving games in which I have to use my Xbox style game pad, it feels natural I guess. But I wouldn't say this game has bad K&M controls.

Originally Posted by Hak'n'Slash
That's how it should be!

no, one save is retarded

Originally Posted by JDR13
How is that possible though? Afaik, the PS4 controller doesn't work in Windows without 3rd-party software.

PS4 controller works without 3-rd party software for Dreamfall chapters. In fact it was the first game to successfully implement that, and sadly remains the only one.

When Capcom announced that PS4 controller will work right out of the box, I instantly pre-ordered the game. As this Gamespot article says:

"The announcement brings news that the game will support keyboard and mouse in addition to controllers, such as the Xbox One, Steam, and DualShock. Support for the DualShock 4 hasn't been consistent with PC games, but Capcom says it will work right out of the box."

It only ever "works" as in the game recognises something other than XBox 360/One controller is plugged in, and replaces all the face buttons with numbers. Highly confusing.

Originally Posted by Hyperion
Some of the key mappings are a little weird

Just didn't feel fluent, even after remapping. That's a rare thing though a majority of the time games default schemes work for me. But with the controller I definitely feel comfortable.

Originally Posted by azarhal
You can backup the save file manually if you fear corruption. It's in [path to]\Steam\userdata\[steamuserId]\367500\remote\

What I meant is more like save game corruption while you are playing, e.g. a sudden power outage or the game crashes just when it is saving or when you are manually saving. Or it just farts for whatever reason and writes some bad data and that's it.
That's what would make me nervous. But there are tools that can automatically copy files to a different folder every x minutes, right? I would probably use one of those tools if I ever get to play this game.
It is a shame they did not include a quick/auto-save rotation though. Should be forced to be made a standard in every modern game, really.

^ A backup of save games is automatically done on the Steam cloud. That should serve your purpose?

Enjoying the heck out of this game so far… It pulls from a lot of different sources, but with the Capcom/Japanese touch, it ends up feeling quite unique. I'm loving storming the countryside with my gang of willing pawns. I can only imagine how cool a sequel would be on PC and new consoles. Maybe it'll happen <fingers crossed>

You can quicksave by pressing Start then Select

Originally Posted by Hak'n'Slash
That's how it should be! A game's much more immersive when you have to live with the consequences of your actions, as you must in RL.

No.
That's garbage design from inferior hardware where there was no enough storage to save 83745682347568735683256 games.

In this game however the reason are sidekicks that are shared online, so to avoid cheats… Who am I kidding. Like cheats can be avoided. For PC release, they should have enabled multiple savegames.

Ok pals, let me ask a question.

I could buy this for 10,99 € for my PS3 (english version) or 27,99 € for PC.

I expect the game to have some STEAM-bullshit coming along, so I'd have to find a way around that, while I hope that the PS3 version is ready2play from the box.

Which one should I buy?

Originally Posted by Sir_Brennus
Ok pals, let me ask a question.

I could buy this for 10,99 € for my PS3 (english version) or 27,99 € for PC.

I expect the game to have some STEAM-bullshit coming along, so I'd have to find a way around that, while I hope that the PS3 version is ready2play from the box.

Which one should I buy?

PS3 Master Race! 😜

It was a spelling mistake all along.

I have Dragon's Dogma for PS3 but have yet to get around to playing it. I loaned my PS3 out to a friend (who wanted to play it for Beyond Two Souls) as I had this rather unusual situation with it being stuck in HDMI mode. Once he's finished with that game (and hopefully a couple of the JRPG's I recommended to him…) perhaps then I'll be able to join in on the Dragon's Dogma discussion (without the dogmatics of course! )

Originally Posted by Hyperion
This game sort of reminds me of Demonicon, with better combat mechanics (that's an understatement) and better graphics.

Ahh, but can you create your own religion and decide philosophically how it is to be implemented in Dragon's Dogma? Even though the player didn't really get to experience the consequences of this, role-playing wise it was still something quite unique that I liked about Demonicon. Despite the god-awful repetitive combat, it had these unexpectedly original and unabashed moments in its writing that was genuinely surprising, bombastic yet amusing and fun. Twas the main draw that got me to see it to its conclusion.

(Dark Souls) That game… and I hear it was good on consoles, but when I bought it for PC, the controls were so bad it was just unplayable.

Perhaps it was this way for you, but certainly it wasn't this way for everyone, particularly those that actually put in some effort with the game. To be honest, I'm pretty fed up in general at hearing this perpetual myth Dark Souls was unplayable on PC with mouse and keyboard or whatever nonsense. I think having spent over 300 hours with the game over multiple characters is sufficient evidence to counter that narrow line of thinking. Indeed, it can be done and it is entirely playable thank you very much. /rant off

Originally Posted by Aditya
^ A backup of save games is automatically done on the Steam cloud. That should serve your purpose?

No since it only uploads the save data to the cloud after you finish playing. My issue with only one save slot is the risk of losing progress. I have zero tolerance for games wasting my time because of some technical crap that is beyond my control.
The ideal solution is multiple save slots, i.e. autosave and a quicksave rotation so when you press 'F5' it saves to a certain predefined number of quicksave slots.
One save slot is crazy. Sure, you might be able to recover a working save from the Steam cloud but if you have played a few hours in the meantime your progress is gone.
Time is the most valuable resource to me. If a game wastes my time then we're at war, dropping bombs…

Originally Posted by Sir_Brennus
Ok pals, let me ask a question.

I could buy this for 10,99 € for my PS3 (english version) or 27,99 € for PC.

I expect the game to have some STEAM-bullshit coming along, so I'd have to find a way around that, while I hope that the PS3 version is ready2play from the box.

Which one should I buy?

Depends, I guess. What "steam BS" are you talking about?

Not sure how DD works on PS3 but I know I needed ps+ ( additional $50) for multiplayer features for bloodborne on ps4. So you might want to check on that.

Originally Posted by Sir_Brennus
Ok pals, let me ask a question.

I could buy this for 10,99 € for my PS3 (english version) or 27,99 € for PC.

I expect the game to have some STEAM-bullshit coming along, so I'd have to find a way around that, while I hope that the PS3 version is ready2play from the box.

Which one should I buy?

PC version. Always PC version. Whenever you have a choice it's always PC.
Unless the port is insult-o-rama. Like Neptunia games.

PC version of Dragon Dogma also addressed a few annoyances present in console version (sidekicks apparenty utterly irritating chatty, fasttravel issues and can't remember others check the FAQ on steam).