Kingmaker - Impressions from GeekDad

GeekDad did a write up of his experiences at PaizoCon 2017 which includes his impressions of Pathfinder: Kingmaker and some screenshots. GeekDad also captured a video snippet of the game.

Pathfinder: Kingmaker: We were treated to a bunch of the concept art for the computer based RPG of Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Lisa Stevens, Paizo CEO said that the game was probably a year out and currently had a couple of hours of content. I had the opportunity to demo the game during the day and it is much farther along than I expected. It was completely playable, and the developer said they had about four hours of mostly finished content, and more in various stages of development. They are planning to release with all the content and options from the Core Rulebook, and are expecting to do a Kickstarter, possibly in June, to add more classes, companions, and features. What I saw showed a game fun to play and pretty true to Pathfinder. The character sheet showed feats, and leveling choices that match what you make in the paper based version of the game. The developer said that while some feats had to be modified to fit a real-time-with-pause style video game, feats and options were included to allow you to create your characters as you'd expect from Pathfinder. What I saw left me more excited for this long awaited way to enjoy Pathfinder.

With that, back to it… there's plenty more gaming to be had! Be sure to follow GeekDad for my post-con write-up.

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Looking pretty good, even at this early stage. I'm getting strong "infinity engine" vibes from this!

Hm, couldn't tell much from the snippet, but I like Pathfinder and would love to play a properly implemented cRPG (with a decent story!) based on these rules. Will definitely keep an eye on this…

Originally Posted by booboo
Hm, couldn't tell much from the snippet, but I like Pathfinder and would love to play a properly implemented cRPG (with a decent story!) based on these rules. Will definitely keep an eye on this…

You will have at least 5 party members and he said the game follow the rules and stuff.
That is enough for now. As they are planning a KS campaign, we will for sure get to see a proper gameplay video

It's good to see the potential is there and they've made this much progress. I'd definitely welcome another isometric cRPG with D&D-like rules. Hopefully it will be at least decently implemented with a good story. I'd probably contribute to a KS campaign if they make PayPal payments available. Not sure I'd ever trust a Russian-based web-funding site.

Death to RtWP!

The developer said that while some feats had to be modified to fit a real-time-with-pause style video game, feats and options were included to allow you to create your characters as you'd expect from Pathfinder

But why didn't you make it turn-based like Pathfinder… WHY??!!!???

I like rtwp, as long as its done well, which can be hard to do. I hope these guys are prepared to iterate lots on the combat system to get it feeling right.

Originally Posted by mercy
Death to RtWP!

Noooo, I like RTwP! All combat systems have pros and cons!

If it's isometric I will likely get it at some point. I can live with RtwP, even though I would prefer turn-based.

Will we still get an Obsidian Pathfinder game or is that dead?

Originally Posted by Darkheart
If it's isometric I will likely get it at some point. I can live with RtwP, even though I would prefer turn-based.

Will we still get an Obsidian Pathfinder game or is that dead?

There are plenty of other modules to do. Maybe Obsidian can make a turn based version

Looks ok. I love DnD - so I'll definitely check it out.

That said, I'm kinda over this BG-style genre for the most part, I think. They don't excite me as singleplayer games, anyway.

Sword Coast Legends was interesting because of the cooperative stuff - and the NWN-inspirations.

Well, it turned out to be complete crap - but it COULD have been great.

Looks interesting, though it's still very early.

Originally Posted by purpleblob
Noooo, I liked RtwP! All combat systems have pros and cons!

I love turn based combat but I also like RtWP when its done right like (BG games, NWN, KTOR etc) but I hated it in Pillars where you had to do fuck loads of micro management with sub seconds timers!

Originally Posted by NewDArt
That said, I'm kinda over this BG-style genre for the most part, I think. They don't excite me as singleplayer games, anyway.
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WHat you mean by BG-style? you mean top down isometric worlds or is it the party based comabt kind of style?

WHat you mean by BG-style? you mean top down isometric worlds or is it the party based comabt kind of style?

I mean singleplayer party-based RTwP RPGs in a fantasy setting.

Don't get me wrong, I still like them - and if they implement DnD properly - I will likely enjoy it quite a bit.

But they don't get me excited anymore.

Originally Posted by NewDArt
I mean singleplayer party-based RTwP RPGs in a fantasy setting.

This is practically what I like the best lol

Originally Posted by purpleblob
This is practically what I like the best lol

As long as it's all rosy and you don't have to do nasty things during quests

Originally Posted by NewDArt
I mean singleplayer party-based RTwP RPGs in a fantasy setting.

Don't get me wrong, I still like them - and if they implement DnD properly - I will likely enjoy it quite a bit.

But they don't get me excited anymore.

Are you saying that you prefer action combat instead of RTwP now?

Originally Posted by lostforever
Are you saying that you prefer action combat instead of RTwP now?

No, I prefer turn-based combat - like I always did in singleplayer RPGs with an emphasis on party-based and tactical combat.

Originally Posted by purpleblob
Noooo, I liked RtwP! All combat systems have pros and cons!

Right, when you use your own combat system that's thought for a RTwP game from the start. But when your source material is all turn-based, and all the rules are made for turn-based combat, when every rule and every spell and every skill depend on a turn-based system, why force the change to Real Time?