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May 17th, 2019, 20:41
Aye, I've no doubt that lots are watching, it is the finale after all, and people are curious as to how the television version will conclude. That's certainly my reason for watching it. I'm speaking more about the long-term results of the past few seasons tainting the earlier, more nuanced and superior seasons of the show. Are they watching because it's a great, coherent story that relates a fascinating tale? I think not.

The doctrine of exceptionalism has been foremost in my mind recently, when I try to think about why Dany may have done what she did in this weeks episode. I just don't recall if it was ever related in the television version, I'm suspecting it was not.
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May 17th, 2019, 21:25
Well one could imagine a lot things could be in the show, that of course will not be. A sure way to set up disappointment.
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May 17th, 2019, 22:17
Exactly. Why would it matter if the Doctrine of Exceptionalism was mentioned? It wasn't necessary. The Targaryen's penchant for incest and madness was alluded to multiple times over the course of the show.

You can't expect them to include every piece of background lore from the novels.
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May 17th, 2019, 22:17
Well based on the lore most Targaryen's are a coin toss.
Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land.
Notice I say most as some went crazy later on in life. That doesn't mean every ruler of the dynasty was a lunatic. Just like most Emperors & Kings you have a mixed bag.
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May 18th, 2019, 20:26
A couple of us were chatting last night about the books and show, and I put forth a belief of mine that "fire and blood' were never meant as a threat, but more of a promise, a way of life/existence for the Targaryens. Taken alone or combined with the doctrine, it could go a long way in explaining why King's Landing had to burn, at least on the show.

Two of the dragons got a major time-out a few series ago for torching one kid, Drogon is in serious trouble!!
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May 18th, 2019, 23:03
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May 19th, 2019, 16:41
To be honest, I find this season and the last few disappointing not so much because of the character arcs themselves, but how the show went from a political intrigue kind of show about characters to 3 hours of battles…

Season 1 was all about the characters, it wasn't about full'scale wars or anything like that.
All that seems to have been lost. I'm not even sure when this happened anymore.
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May 19th, 2019, 20:08
Yeah, that's a huge part of the problem for me as well. Foreshadowing doesn't equal character or plot development, not without the proper steps in between. Either way, we'll all see how it wraps up tonight.
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May 20th, 2019, 04:33
Please use spoiler tags when talking about tonight's series finale!
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May 20th, 2019, 06:12
GoT..
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May 20th, 2019, 06:21
I'm watching The Prisoner at the moment. Seems relevant to our times somehow despite being made in the 1960s. Its very much about societal control vs individualism with some interesting and thought provoking ideas thrown into the mix. I won't mention specific's because I think you guys should check it out yourselves.
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May 20th, 2019, 09:02
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I'm watching The Prisoner at the moment..
last month in preparation for The Prisoner I tried watching a few episodes of Secret Agent (AKA Danger Man in Great Britain) just to hear the fantastic theme song (Secret Agent Man) but instead heard that 60s harpsicord theme. Wiki says that the Johnny Rivers song was only for US markets and apparently Amazon Prime has the Great Britain version.

sigh, there's always the internet . . .

BTW, Secret Agent did not hold up well.
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May 20th, 2019, 10:52
With a few exceptions, I thought it was a good finale.


Spoiler – The things I didn't care for.


Spoiler – On the other hand.
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May 20th, 2019, 14:00
Some people are born to sit on a throne. And some of them even deserve it by giving it a lot of practice, sitting on a chair while being crippled.
That is the final message of this massive cultural phenomenom. Meritocracy all the way up.

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George R.R. Martin confirmed this week that three Game of Thrones spin-offs are still in the works for HBO. He shared details about the prequel but HBO had no comment
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May 20th, 2019, 15:18
My thoughts on this series of Throne episodes is well known here, so I'll just say the finale met all those expectations.

Huge spoiler!!!




I think the walk Tyrion takes to his siblings is close to fifteen minutes in length.
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May 20th, 2019, 17:47
Originally Posted by Carnifex View Post
I think the walk Tyrion takes to his siblings is close to fifteen minutes in length.
No, but around 4 minutes in total..
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May 20th, 2019, 18:55
Would have liked to hear even a little bit of dialogue with Jon at the very end, but otherwise I was happy with the ending.

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May 20th, 2019, 19:04
Season eight was a huge disappointment.

Good job ruining the series HBO.

Now excuse while I go read better fanfiction.

That's all I have to say.
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May 20th, 2019, 19:21
Originally Posted by Couchpotato View Post
Season eight was a huge disappointment.

Good job ruining the series HBO.

Now excuse while I go read better fanfiction.

That's all I have to say.
Read the books if you haven't
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May 20th, 2019, 19:21
Speak for yourself. Most of us enjoyed it just fine.

It wasn't perfect, but it was still far better than the majority of what's on television these days.
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