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What do you consider the best setting in RPG history?
December 28th, 2019, 03:35
One of the Tamrielic provinces? The "Continent" of the Witcher? Ferelden? The Forgotten Realms? Sigil? Britannia? Somewhere else?
For me, it's a much easier question to answer than my favorite RPG. It's Morrowind, easily. No setting has been as orginal, as interesting, and as fully considered. It's one of the few truly great settings in gaming even when compared to all other media. (And the #1 reason why improvements in other areas have still never allowed BGS' subsequent offerings to touch Morrowind as an experience)
For me, it's a much easier question to answer than my favorite RPG. It's Morrowind, easily. No setting has been as orginal, as interesting, and as fully considered. It's one of the few truly great settings in gaming even when compared to all other media. (And the #1 reason why improvements in other areas have still never allowed BGS' subsequent offerings to touch Morrowind as an experience)
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December 28th, 2019, 08:03
The whole planet of Nirn (I think that's the name from Elder Scrolls?) was a mighty good one. Blackreach was pretty cool, in particular.
ELEX is showing some promise.
Hmmm…. looks like I'm a sucker for interesting moons!
ELEX is showing some promise.
Hmmm…. looks like I'm a sucker for interesting moons!
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December 28th, 2019, 09:38
It can be answered in different ways. What is the best one in a rpg that I played?
I think the Baldur's Gate setting and lore in those games was great. Classical and traditional fantasy setting done superbly. Also have to say the same of Gothic 1 - an amazingly designed fantasy world with tons of "immersion" and atmosphere, one that really drew you in.
What about yet unrealized fantasy settings that are rich and would be awesome?
I think the Warhammer fantasy setting is criminally overlooked and while I know they have set a game or two there (most recently an action rpg) but its not even close to tapping the vast potential of the setting in terms of rpgs. I have read a ton of Warhammer fantasy books, what can I say.
And am a fanboy of the setting.
I think the Baldur's Gate setting and lore in those games was great. Classical and traditional fantasy setting done superbly. Also have to say the same of Gothic 1 - an amazingly designed fantasy world with tons of "immersion" and atmosphere, one that really drew you in.
What about yet unrealized fantasy settings that are rich and would be awesome?
I think the Warhammer fantasy setting is criminally overlooked and while I know they have set a game or two there (most recently an action rpg) but its not even close to tapping the vast potential of the setting in terms of rpgs. I have read a ton of Warhammer fantasy books, what can I say.
And am a fanboy of the setting.
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December 28th, 2019, 10:37
For largely unrealised settings with great potential I would cite Raymond E. Feist. Among his fantasy novels The Riftwar Saga has alot of potential and the setting as a whole has already been proven by Betrayal at Krondor.
Another one that needs a modern iteration would be Dark Sun. So much interesting lore and history in that setting. I got a kick out of reading the Dark Sun manuals and seeing all the different races and history in there. There needs to be a Baldurs Gate type game in that setting (with Pathfinder: Kingmaker improvements). An action RPG as a sole protagonist, Morrowind style, would also work well.
Another one that needs a modern iteration would be Dark Sun. So much interesting lore and history in that setting. I got a kick out of reading the Dark Sun manuals and seeing all the different races and history in there. There needs to be a Baldurs Gate type game in that setting (with Pathfinder: Kingmaker improvements). An action RPG as a sole protagonist, Morrowind style, would also work well.
December 28th, 2019, 12:27
Traditionally I like the TDE setting more, but in my case that's just kind of a favouritism. 
Currently I like Eberron most, because it has several things - like Steampunk + Fantasy - combined. Plus, it is one of the few fantasy settings with real pirates.

Currently I like Eberron most, because it has several things - like Steampunk + Fantasy - combined. Plus, it is one of the few fantasy settings with real pirates.
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December 28th, 2019, 14:22
It's not an easy question for me considering how many RPGs I've played over the years. I could probably narrow it down though to Fallout, The Forgotten Realms, and The Witcher.
Btw, Morrowind is a location not a setting.
Btw, Morrowind is a location not a setting.
December 28th, 2019, 14:54
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December 28th, 2019, 17:47
Probably Krondor for me. I had such a great attachment to the books when the game came out, and nothing has quite duplicated that feeling for me, even though it's been over twenty years by now. Some products have come close, but that game was really quite the watershed for me, and sits in a class by itself, in terms of writing and the environment in which one played.
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December 28th, 2019, 19:56
I have always liked AD&D stuff so Forgotten Realms I have a lot of fondness for. But also really enjoying Pathfinder with Kingmaker and like these areas I have seen so far. I tend to like the high fantasy with lots of nature, ancient dungeons and ruins, old castles, medieval style towns, hidden glades, etc.
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December 28th, 2019, 20:09
Originally Posted by Arkadia7I'm a big Warhammer fan too, and Total War: Warhammer is one of my favorite games. And you're right, while they keep tracking out games in the (especially) Warhammer 40K setting, there has never been even a decent RPG in either the fantasy or 40K world. And there could be!
I think the Warhammer fantasy setting is criminally overlooked and while I know they have set a game or two there (most recently an action rpg) but its not even close to tapping the vast potential of the setting in terms of rpgs. I have read a ton of Warhammer fantasy books, what can I say.And am a fanboy of the setting.
Krondor is a good one. I liked Betrayal at Krondor a lot.. I was a sucker for how literate it was compared to contemporaneous RPGs… but I never finished it.
For D&D, I gravitate toward the oddball settings, the less heralded and less traditional ones. Planescape Torment is therefore an obvious favorite. I never played the Dark Sun game; I probably never will, now, because of its age, but I would love for a new game to be set there. I'm not familiar with Eberron, but I'd be immediately intrigued by that possibility too.
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December 28th, 2019, 20:55
Originally Posted by Arkadia7I'm betting the Witcher games have the same problem, along with BattleTech and Tolkien-based worlds. Movies never have the time to get into those details but games never bother, either, even though they can be quite long. If they do reference the depth, it tends to be via (ironically) in-game books you can read.
I think the Warhammer fantasy setting is criminally overlooked and while I know they have set a game or two there (most recently an action rpg) but its not even close to tapping the vast potential of the setting in terms of rpgs. I have read a ton of Warhammer fantasy books, what can I say.And am a fanboy of the setting.
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December 28th, 2019, 22:18
I'll go with the mass effect universe. I particularly like the different species and their background.
The fallout setting is pretty cool, too, but sometimes too cartoonish for me (not just fallout boy). And of course, it copies alot from the real world with its alternate timeline setting.
There's plenty of good settings transfered from other media (forgotten realms, star trek, star wars, warhammer, warhammer 40k, vampire: masquerade etc.) and they're all nice. Of course these all come with the benefit of the sheer amount of lore and background information. So I can see why they are contenders.
And with respect to some others:
*Tamriel / Nirn is fine, but not particularly exceptional, definitely fleshed out quite well but feels derivative too me.
*Elex has its qualities, but the setting feels completely inconsistent to me
*On world scale, I feel the same about the Gothic series
*While I liked Greedfall, it's missing alot of context on anything that is not immediately covered during the game.
*Grim Dawn setting is nice, but lacking detail.
*Path of Exile has good atmosphere, but the setting is kind of too ambitious (at least, in its current state).
*I liked the very simple setting of the original Diablo, but am doubtfull about what was added later on.
*The Witcher setting is sometimes great, sometimes too real, and it still misses alot of context of the world.
*Britannia is fun but patchwork.
Ok, I think that's enough for now.
The fallout setting is pretty cool, too, but sometimes too cartoonish for me (not just fallout boy). And of course, it copies alot from the real world with its alternate timeline setting.
There's plenty of good settings transfered from other media (forgotten realms, star trek, star wars, warhammer, warhammer 40k, vampire: masquerade etc.) and they're all nice. Of course these all come with the benefit of the sheer amount of lore and background information. So I can see why they are contenders.
And with respect to some others:
*Tamriel / Nirn is fine, but not particularly exceptional, definitely fleshed out quite well but feels derivative too me.
*Elex has its qualities, but the setting feels completely inconsistent to me
*On world scale, I feel the same about the Gothic series
*While I liked Greedfall, it's missing alot of context on anything that is not immediately covered during the game.
*Grim Dawn setting is nice, but lacking detail.
*Path of Exile has good atmosphere, but the setting is kind of too ambitious (at least, in its current state).
*I liked the very simple setting of the original Diablo, but am doubtfull about what was added later on.
*The Witcher setting is sometimes great, sometimes too real, and it still misses alot of context of the world.
*Britannia is fun but patchwork.
Ok, I think that's enough for now.
December 28th, 2019, 22:26
Originally Posted by CacheperlI came out of playing the trilogy thinking the Mass Effect universe was quite generic. Years later, I replayed Mass Effect 1 and it was more interesting than I had remembered. I liked Mass Effect 4 more than many, but one thing I thought they entirely missed the boat on was the opportunity to use the premise to create some really unique things…. it felt like 99% of it was just stuff from the trilogy brought over.
I'll go with the mass effect universe. I particularly like the different species and their background.
"*Tamriel / Nirn is fine, but not particularly exceptional, definitely fleshed out quite well but feels derivative too me."
Tamriel, yes. Oblivion was entirely bland as a game because Cyrodil was given almost no unique character. Skryim did a very basic job of importing the usual Viking stuff.
But Morrowind, specifically, is not derivative AT ALL. At least not of the usual suspects (Tolkein, D&D, medieval Earth history)
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December 29th, 2019, 01:16
Originally Posted by wolfgrimdarkI second this, I am also a sucker for high fantasy settings - so Forgotten Realms and Golarion
I have always liked AD&D stuff so Forgotten Realms I have a lot of fondness for. But also really enjoying Pathfinder with Kingmaker and like these areas I have seen so far. I tend to like the high fantasy with lots of nature, ancient dungeons and ruins, old castles, medieval style towns, hidden glades, etc.
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December 29th, 2019, 07:35
Originally Posted by JFarrell71I'll have to disagree with you on that. Have you tried Warhammer 40K: Inquisitor – Martyr yet? It's pretty good, and I say that as someone who normally isn't a fan of Diablo clones.
I'm a big Warhammer fan too, and Total War: Warhammer is one of my favorite games. And you're right, while they keep tracking out games in the (especially) Warhammer 40K setting, there has never been even a decent RPG in either the fantasy or 40K world. And there could be!.
December 29th, 2019, 08:38
I reckon it has to be Kingdoms of Amalur 
Nah, Tamriel wins but it was a much better world, not games mind you, back when it was Daggerfall and Morrowind. I find Oblivion and Skyrim to be games, but Daggerfall and Morrowind had a more compelling world view.
Nothing would be able to beat Feist's stuff if there was more of it.
Wizardry, Might and Magic, and Ultima are all great…for their time.
As far as an author that I'd love to see get some RPG love, I'll go with L.E. Modesitt Jr. and his Recluce saga. In a very real way, Modesitt would be an awesome author for a crafting type rpg with magic.

Nah, Tamriel wins but it was a much better world, not games mind you, back when it was Daggerfall and Morrowind. I find Oblivion and Skyrim to be games, but Daggerfall and Morrowind had a more compelling world view.
Nothing would be able to beat Feist's stuff if there was more of it.
Wizardry, Might and Magic, and Ultima are all great…for their time.
As far as an author that I'd love to see get some RPG love, I'll go with L.E. Modesitt Jr. and his Recluce saga. In a very real way, Modesitt would be an awesome author for a crafting type rpg with magic.
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December 29th, 2019, 09:07
Probably the enigmatic setting of Fallout 1, before it got regurgitated with little to no evolution in sequels.
Planescape and Ptolus are pretty amazing as well - most stuff by Monte Cook.
Planescape and Ptolus are pretty amazing as well - most stuff by Monte Cook.
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