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October 7th, 2020, 20:07
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October 7th, 2020, 20:11
I watched those movies so many times I cant stand watching them anymore.
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October 7th, 2020, 20:25
I'm waiting for more movies set in different eras but it'll probably never happen. Whats your opinion on the old The Hobbit cartoon from 1977. Loved it as a kid.
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October 7th, 2020, 20:32
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoNever seen any of the old movies. Just the Peter Jackson ones.
I'm waiting for more movies set in different eras but it'll probably never happen. Whats your opinion on the old The Hobbit cartoon from 1977. Loved it as a kid.![]()
I'm kind of interested in the Amazon tv series, maybe just because of the humongous budget they advertised. But I'm also wary. I doubt we'll ever get anything as good the Jackson trilogy. Heck, even Jackson and his crew couldn't replicate the same thing twice with The Hobbit (though that's a lot less to do with his crew, and more with studio interference and pressures)
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October 7th, 2020, 20:36
A recent interview claimed the script wasn't finished, and Jackson had the cast ad-lib the scenes. Considering that I'm amazed the Hobbit Trilogy turned out as good as it did.
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October 7th, 2020, 20:46
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoIt was a very very messy situation. I was not aware of most of what happened until I watched Lindsay Ellis's mini-documentary. Highly recommend watching it if you have 1h and a half.
A recent interview claimed the script wasn't finished, and Jackson had the cast ad-lib the scenes. Considering that I'm amazed the Hobbit Trilogy turned out as good as it did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRUQ-RKfUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElPJr_tKkO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7t_g5QObs
Spans everything from scheduling issues under the initial director, Guillermo del Toro, then the whole thing being forced upon Jackson to do it in very little time with little resources, and ending even with corporate lobbying from Hollywood to change laws in New Zeeland to make it easier to do union busting of people working in the industry. Basically, capitalism doing what it does best.
I read some article that a lot of people in New Zeeland look at LOTR with very mixed opinions as to what it did for their industry. If I understood correctly, basically New Zeeland became the movie-making colony for the western world, with regards to costs.
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October 7th, 2020, 21:10
Awesome! Now we can watch Peter Jackson's mediocrity in even higher resolution! 
In all seriousness though, they weren't completely terrible, and I still think Fellowship of the Ring was actually pretty good. Unfortunately, they declined in quality after that, imo.

In all seriousness though, they weren't completely terrible, and I still think Fellowship of the Ring was actually pretty good. Unfortunately, they declined in quality after that, imo.
October 7th, 2020, 21:20
I much preferred the Ralph Bakshi version, myself. Shame he never finished it.
I thought Jackson's LotR trilogy was good, but overrated, and the Hobbit prequels I found just awful.
I thought Jackson's LotR trilogy was good, but overrated, and the Hobbit prequels I found just awful.
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October 7th, 2020, 21:28
Originally Posted by JDR13
Awesome! Now we can watch Peter Jackson's mediocrity in even higher resolution!
In all seriousness though, they weren't completely terrible, and I still think Fellowship of the Ring was actually pretty good. Unfortunately, they declined in quality after that, imo.
Originally Posted by RipperIt's not often that I get to tell people with absolute certainty that they're wrong, so I like to cherish little moments like these. LOTR is the absolute best trilogy ever made.
I much preferred the Ralph Bakshi version, myself. Shame he never finished it.
I thought Jackson's LotR trilogy was good, but overrated, and the Hobbit prequels I found just awful.

Seriously though, It's amazing that it ended up so well. I like to believe that the fact that they filmed them all together, and then released them one by one had a lot to do with it. And most certainly lots of other things.
Too bad they're probably not gona be able to do a remaster of the "Behind the scenes" footage. They have about 12h of footage in all, and it would be amazing to see those again in a proper resolution. But unfortunately they seem to have been filmed with a lot lower-budget cameras. Expected but unfortunate.
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October 8th, 2020, 01:20
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoI couldn't stand them the first time and I can't stand 4K either.
I watched those movies so many times I cant stand watching them anymore.![]()
The news is lose-lose in my case.
Originally Posted by RipperMe too, yes, it's a shame.
I much preferred the Ralph Bakshi version, myself. Shame he never finished it.
I thought Jackson's LotR trilogy was good, but overrated, and the Hobbit prequels I found just awful.
It was a disgraceful atrocity I thought can't go worse than that and then we got Hobbit. Tolkien is probably still turning in his grave trying to say for each and every pathetic entry "I didn't write this!".
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October 8th, 2020, 11:48
Personally, I prefer head cinema over everything else.
Plus, I really don't need to see every single freckle on one's face …
(And yes, I did read through most of the books on Middle-earth by Christopher Tolkien, who, by the way, died a few months ago.)
Plus, I really don't need to see every single freckle on one's face …
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoWell, Tolkien's most definitively was. At one point.
A recent interview claimed the script wasn't finished,
(And yes, I did read through most of the books on Middle-earth by Christopher Tolkien, who, by the way, died a few months ago.)
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October 10th, 2020, 16:13
As a big Tolkien fan, I enjoyed the movies for what they're worth, bringing my beloved Middle-earth to the big screen. I thought Fellowship was definitely a good movie (and the best of the lot), and I can still remember the wonder and goosebumps I got when Gandalf lit up the hall in Moria. If there's anything you can say about Jackson's movies, is that the casting and world building were absolutely spot on.
I agree TTT and RotK were mediocre, but even they had their moments of splendor. The Hobbit trilogy on the other hand was on the whole very cringy, with the performance of Martin Freeman as Bilbo as lonely highlight.
I agree TTT and RotK were mediocre, but even they had their moments of splendor. The Hobbit trilogy on the other hand was on the whole very cringy, with the performance of Martin Freeman as Bilbo as lonely highlight.
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