The Lord of the Rings TV series.

Originally Posted by Silver
Sexual content like Game of Thrones. Not a fan of that for LOTR.

I'll be very surprised if it's anything like that. I did a search, and all I could find were some speculative articles that used words like "could" and "may" a lot.

I don't see it happening though. Remember, the Tolkien estate has final word on what gets approved in this series.

Originally Posted by Ripper
Is there any particular reason to think this series will suffer from preachy bad writing, though, beyond the speculation of youtubers who make a living grinding on that stuff?

If Amazon does not respect the lore then the writers will have to 'invent' stuff and we have seen where that can go with Game of Thrones. As it is the second age is largely devoid of story details beyond the larger outlines so that is a big red flag already. It's a wait and see for now. Lots of tv shows pull a bait and switch and throw in the most controversial changes into season 2 or beyond.

As I already mentioned, the writers aren't allowed to contradict anything written by Tolkien about the Second Age.

As far as the story is concerned, there is plenty of material there for them to work with. I actually like that they won't be bound to one specific narrative like in LotR. It left little to the imagination, and everyone more or less knew exactly what was going to happen at every step.

I can only hope the Tolkien estate will force the creators to use constraint with their property, and keep them on task. And if they, the creators, are going to ape anything from Ice and Fire, emulate the first three books, not that horrid television show.

Originally Posted by JDR13
I'll be very surprised if it's anything like that. I did a search, and all I could find were some speculative articles that used words like "could" and "may" a lot.

I don't see it happening though. Remember, the Tolkien estate has final word on what gets approved in this series.

You've seen the LOTR slot machines I take it? I hope for the best but expect the worst unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Silver
You've seen the LOTR slot machines I take it? I hope for the best but expect the worst unfortunately.

What do those have to do with this series? Are you sure you're not just looking for excuses to hate on this despite knowing almost nothing about it at this point?

I think the odds could be much worse. Imagine if Disney had gotten the rights.

I have no investment in the LOTR lore at all, so I'm looking forward to it.
I like the world it is build in and if they tell an entertaining story, then I'm all for it

Originally Posted by JDR13
What do those have to do with this series? Are you sure you're not just looking for excuses to hate on this despite knowing almost nothing about it at this point?

I think the odds could be much worse. Imagine if Disney had gotten the rights.

That has to do with the Tolkien estate "respecting" Tolkien. I'm sure you can see the relevance to the conversation. I look for character when it comes to decision making and set my expectations accordingly. I will be pleasantly surprised if it turns out good and I'm not trying to make you agree with me btw; I'm just explaining my expectations since you asked.

Tolkien was all about the story, and then the characters that took you on the journey. I would expect any visitation to his realms to carry on those same philosophies. Leave the high school dramas to other networks.

Originally Posted by Silver
That has to do with the Tolkien estate "respecting" Tolkien. I'm sure you can see the relevance to the conversation. I look for character when it comes to decision making and set my expectations accordingly. I will be pleasantly surprised if it turns out good and I'm not trying to make you agree with me btw; I'm just explaining my expectations since you asked.

Actually, I don't. Maybe you could explain it?

You seem to be drawing some far reaching conclusions.

Originally Posted by JDR13
I'm already beginning to sense that some people want this to fail.

Took you a while, I was pretty much clear instantly that I want it to rot.

Originally Posted by JDR13
Imagine if Disney had gotten the rights.

Tolkien's dying wish was to never allow Disney to ruin his legacy:
https://insidethemagic.net/2021/02/t…lt-disney-al1/
He knew there was a possibility, sadly with or without Disney that possibility became true.

Originally Posted by JDR13
Actually, I don't. Maybe you could explain it?

You seem to be drawing some far reaching conclusions.

Tolkien is being used to get people interested in gambling. Tolkien was very Christian and his work displays very Christian themes. Things that are not covered correctly in modern entertainment by major networks or corporations.

Plenty of Christian gamblers.

Originally Posted by Ripper
Plenty of Christian gamblers.

True. But having worked in the gambling industry its not very funny to me.

That's an Interesting coincidence. I was in the gambling industry as well. I worked at a casino in Detroit for almost 8 years. First as a slot machine attendant for almost a year, and then as a card and dice dealer for about 7 years.

I have to say though, I don't see a connection between the existence of Hobbit slot machines and the likelihood of gratuitous sex in the upcoming series.

Originally Posted by JDR13
I have to say though, I don't see a connection between the existence of Hobbit slot machines and the likelihood of gratuitous sex in the upcoming series.

The point is that for moneys sake many things happen that shouldn't happen. I think it inevitable for Amazon to pursue a more GOT angle because that worked for awhile. It may not happen but whatever.

Originally Posted by Silver
The point is that for moneys sake many things happen that shouldn't happen. I think it inevitable for Amazon to pursue a more GOT angle because that worked for awhile. It may not happen but whatever.

It's irrelevant what Amazon wants to pursue. The Tolkien estate has complete power of veto on this project, and it's highly unlikely that they're going to sign off on GoT style sex scenes.

https://www.cbr.com/lord-of-the-ring…es-nudity-sex/

I doubt there'll be much of that personally, because LOTR and the Hobbit seem to fare well with younger demographics too. Having sex scenes would make it hard for families to watch together.

I hope you're right, JDR. That is what I'd hope to happen, yet I know showers of cash can tempt even the most stoic of folks. If they keep to their principles, the Tolkien estate I mean, we should have a fine series that will remain true to the master, for all of us to savor.

Originally Posted by Pladio
I doubt there'll be much of that personally, because LOTR and the Hobbit seem to fare well with younger demographics too. Having sex scenes would make it hard for families to watch together.

Could be educational
But yes, just kidding, this would be awkward indeed, and even bring all sorts of race-related issues since it's the trend these days.

Let's hope the Tolkien Estate can use enough influence to keep that in the right direction.