GOTY 2021 Shortlisting the long list - GOTY

Originally Posted by JFarrell71
Persona 4 (and 3, and 5) are absolutely JRPGs, and some of the best around.

Strikers, however, is something different. It's a musou game, a Dynasty Warriors with the Persona 5 characters. It has a substantial story but it's more like a visual novel. You may as well put Ultimax on there too (a Persona 1 on 1 fighting game)

Thanks for the heads up, this was high up on my wish list. I had really hoped it would be like Persona 4.

Yeah, I heard bad things about Strikers, so I avoided it for now. I'm still hopeful that we'll get three and four for the computer audience someday.

Not shocked to find that overtuned and buggy mess at the top

While 2021 has been an EXTREMELY weak year for me, I would probably say Ascent is the best out of all of those - and it's only a "pretty good" one as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by forgottenlor
Thanks for the heads up, this was high up on my wish list. I had really hoped it would be like Persona 4.

(Regular) Persona 5 will probably end up on Steam at some point, and you should check that out when/if it is. You'd enjoy that if you enjoyed Persona 4.

Carnifex, we already have 4 for PC. It's called Persona 4 Golden ("Golden" was a later version that expanded the game) and it's $20 U.S.

Oh yes my error, I meant to type five, not four. I played the fourth game a little over a year ago, and quite enjoyed it.

Proposing this as the shortlist (31 games) that go into voting:

ID	Title	News Posts	Comments	Ratio	h-index
1	Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous	104	2445	23,3	28
2	Solasta: Crown of the Magister	116	1683	14,4	24
3	Encased	80	750	9,3	15
4	Mechajammer	61	520	8,4	12
5	King's Bounty II	25	302	11,6	11
6	Gamedec	51	241	4,6	10
7	ATOM RPG: Trudograd	22	197	8,6	9
8	Biomutant	35	270	7,5	9
9	Tortured Hearts	13	369	26,4	8
10	Werewolf: The Apocalypse - Earthblood	21	111	5	8
11	Edge Of Eternity	88	231	2,6	8
12	Wildermyth	17	125	6,9	7
13	Disciples: Liberation	14	100	6,7	7
14	Gloomhaven	22	146	6,3	7
15	Vagrus: The Riven Realms	78	191	2,4	7
16	The Ascent	17	124	6,9	6
17	Urtuk: The Desolation	12	68	5,2	5
18	Tales of Arise	15	74	4,6	5
19	The Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos	6	88	12,6	4
20	The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV	7	47	5,9	4
21	Griftlands	7	46	5,8	4
22	Dungeon Encounters	10	61	5,5	4
23	Medieval Dynasty	8	44	4,9	4
24	Ruined King: A League of Legends Story	9	41	4,1	4
25	Chernobylite	10	38	3,5	4
26	NieR Replicant ver.1.22474487139	7	28	3,5	4
27	HellSign	11	29	2,4	4
28	Drox Operative 2	17	31	1,7	4
29	Geneforge 1 - Mutagen	5	37	6,2	3
30	Nioh 2	10	24	2,2	3
31	Dark Deity	3	12	3	1

lol, I've played 3 games on the list at all and none after their full release…My most played game was SCUM and Legendary Journeys. Neither of these are even released at all, though SCUM has made millions in EA.

Originally Posted by DArtagnan
While 2021 has been an EXTREMELY weak year for me, I would probably say Ascent is the best out of all of those - and it's only a "pretty good" one as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, it's not been a very good year for those looking for some retro nostalgia games. Microsoft look like they might make an Elder Scrolls-like game in the future and EA are telling people they'll make another Dragon Age-like game down the road somewhere, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

With Encased, Solasta, Pathfinder and Atom-RPG, it's been a pretty solid year for me. But ah well, each his own :-)

Same here, quite a good year personally! But I'm not buying a ton of games.

2022 is very promising too.

2021 was one of the best years for me - I played more than 1 RPG that came out in a year

2022 is not looking too promising but fingers crossed something will catch my attention soon

Originally Posted by Redglyph
Same here, quite a good year personally! But I'm not buying a ton of games.

Yeah, right. I say that every year… and then the sales start.

Originally Posted by JDR13
Yeah, right. I say that every year… and then the sales start.

All right, maybe a little more But really not that much, I've got 6 in that list and that's it for games released in 2021. A few older ones too because, yeah, sales. I bet you're far ahead of me.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake should be on the list, IMHO, but I'm not sure what it would replace - probably Dark Deity at the end of the list.

Isn't FF seven coming out episodically? If so, we ought to wait until it's fully out and playable, me thinks.

It's a remake, so like Diablo 2 and Mass Effect, there have been a new release in 2021 but it's not in our 'official' game list.

It's probably late for that but if it helps, I can create those new game entries. I can also adjust the news posts though at this stage we're past the statistics.

Originally Posted by Redglyph
It's a remake, so like Diablo 2 and Mass Effect, there have been a new release in 2021 but it's not in our 'official' game list.

FF7 Remake is a new game though even if it's based on an old one. The other games you mention are just remasters.

Thing is, it was originally released in 2020 and then ported to PC in December, so there's that. However, it wasn't included on the 2020 list.

Originally Posted by JDR13
FF7 Remake is a new game though even if it's based on an old one. The other games you mention are just remasters.

I only meant they're all new releases (even if just remasters) that were not added to our list.

Do the remasters deserve a vote? Maybe, maybe not, but I doubt it would have made any difference. There was no reaction when I posted earlier about them.

I don't know how many of us play the FF games though, they seem quite successful in general.