Cyberpunk 2077 - Patch 1.5

Originally Posted by Pladio
Level scaling is one of the worst designs in my opinion.

Why should a giant rat be a simple early game enemy when you're level 1 but a boss level fight when you're level 15?

There are so many ways how level scaling can be implemented. Lots of RPGs use some for of level scaling and if done well, the player doesnt even notice it. I dont think its implicitly bad design choice. It becomes bad only when its badly implemented.

Originally Posted by Andrew23
There are so many ways how level scaling can be implemented. Lots of RPGs use some for of level scaling and if done well, the player doesnt even notice it. I dont think its implicitly bad design choice. It becomes bad only when its badly implemented.

I've not ever seen it done well RPGs Have you?

Originally Posted by Pladio
I've not ever seen it done well RPGs Have you?

Im sure I was more then several times surprised to see that some way of level scaling was implemented in games I didnt even notice it. But Im not going to argue about it and search the internet for evidence. If your experience says otherwise im fine with it .

Crashed for no apparent reason within 60 minutes, leaving that for another 2 years i guess..

Originally Posted by Andrew23
Im sure I was more then several times surprised to see that some way of level scaling was implemented in games I didnt even notice it. But Im not going to argue about it and search the internet for evidence. If your experience says otherwise im fine with it .

I'm genuinely curious.

I've not seen good ones to me.
It was mostly very noticeable.

The only one I can remember, but my memory is fuzzy about it, is Star Wars Knights of the old Republic.

Since you can visit any planet in any order, the enemies do scale, but each planet has mostly unique monsters, so you don't know they've been scaled unless you played the game again.

Personally that was maybe the best way I remember but not certain if I am remembering right.

My personal preference would be not to have it and for some locations to be deemed too dangerous to go, but I can understand if that's the kind you do enjoy.

Baldur's Gate II has level scaling that's barely noticeable. In fact, I never knew it had it until years later when I read about it.

It's not in every area, and when it's there, it's subtle. Certain mobs can contain different enemies depending on your level.

There aren't many examples like that though, and I agree that level scaling is usually pretty noticeable.

I never really noticed the level scaling in C2077 myself as I felt okay exploring all over for the most part. I do expect in most any game that if I really go off on tangents when exploring I might come across some SKULL marked enemies and consider that a good thing.

Originally Posted by wolfgrimdark
I never really noticed the level scaling in C2077 myself as I felt okay exploring all over for the most part. I do expect in most any game that if I really go off on tangents when exploring I might come across some SKULL marked enemies and consider that a good thing.

The only time I saw a significant change in enemy levels was when I crossed the border from one district to another. i.e. Going from Heywood to Pacifica. I can't say I noticed it much within the same district, and I did my fair share of exploring.

level scaling was very obvious in the loot system though.

Originally Posted by JDR13
The only time I saw a significant change in enemy levels was when I crossed the border from one district to another. i.e. Going from Heywood to Pacifica. I can't say I noticed it much within the same district, and I did my fair share of exploring.

level scaling was very obvious in the loot system though.

I think that was what I was remembering as well. The loot system wasn't something I was big on, however. Hopefully that was improved.

Anyhow I really like the game a lot so put up with things I know would bother others too much.