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ES4: Oblivion - CRPG of the Year @ GameSpy
December 20th, 2006, 00:47
GameSpy has just announced Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion as their PC RPG of the Year for 2006. Congrats to Bethesda Softworks for bringing us such a wonderful title!
Though it certainly shares the space with an extremely worthy game (i.e., Neverwinter Nights 2), we just had to give Oblivion the nod for a number of reasons. Primarily, it's rare to see a game that is so deep and engrossing that remains so eminently accessible and playable. Whether you're an RPG vet or complete beginner, you're likely to be drawn in by Oblivion's masterfully created world. The attention to detail given to even the most insignificant elements sets a benchmark for the genre, one that, we suspect, won't be surpassed anytime soon.More information.
December 20th, 2006, 00:47
Well, Bethesda obviously put the wrong game in the box I got. The Oblivion I played was a shallow, braindead, disjointed, dumbed down game that played more like a shooter than rpg.
Traveler
December 20th, 2006, 01:23
I really have no problem with Oblivion being mentioned as RPG of the year on some web sites. When I played the game I had fun and the game is a huge seller. (I think). I know many hardcore players hate the game but with its success, it may allow developers an easier go when they're trying to get funding for their next CRPG.
December 20th, 2006, 01:32
Every game company will aspire to emulate - everyone will be making rpg-lites. They will become the new shooter/rpg standard….
PB and other rpg developers will get canned by every reviewer for creating frustrating gameplay - what the FPS lover reviewers mean is frustration that they can't just 'go around killing things'.
Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to have more rpg-lites on the market from shooter companies, just as long as some continue to make rpg's which require a brain to play - not just mindless combat.
PB and other rpg developers will get canned by every reviewer for creating frustrating gameplay - what the FPS lover reviewers mean is frustration that they can't just 'go around killing things'.
Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to have more rpg-lites on the market from shooter companies, just as long as some continue to make rpg's which require a brain to play - not just mindless combat.
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Traveler
December 20th, 2006, 02:16
Originally Posted by pantheonWith all due respect but computer gaming might in general not exactly be the right kind of hobby if you're looking for work for your brain
…just as long as some continue to make rpg's which require a brain to play - not just mindless combat.
. I'd suggest learning a foreign language or to learn how to program (additional benfit: you'll be able to make your own brainy games after you have worked on your own brain for a while) if you're seriously looking for something that requires a brain.After a couple of decades of gaming (if we include the C64 era), I have honestly yet to come across a game that truly requires any brain work. The ones that came closest were the (supposedly realistic) flight sims that I used to love in the 90s. Navigation and learning to read those flight charts did require a bit of thinking but elsewise I really can't think of anything that was an intellectual challenge. Ever.
So… what are those brainy games that you are talking about? Or are you just trying to make yourself feel better or look more intelligent by making derogatory remarks about action games? Watch out. That's your pants down there
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December 20th, 2006, 02:16
Congrats to Bethesda Softworks for bringing us such a wonderful title!
Did anyone else crap their pants laughing after reading that?
Did anyone else crap their pants laughing after reading that?
Guest
December 20th, 2006, 03:12
Originally Posted by pantheonThere's really enough of these statements on Bethesda's official Oblivion forums. At the very least, if you're going to state things like, "… shallow, braindead, disjointed, dumbed down…" at least take a second or two to back up such statements with some actual reasons.
Well, Bethesda obviously put the wrong game in the box I got. The Oblivion I played was a shallow, braindead, disjointed, dumbed down game that played more like a shooter than rpg.
I've been gaming since the original Oddyssey (sp?) released back in the mid 70s. Played most of the 80s and 90s 'big' CRPGs like Ultima, Wizardry, Bard's Tale and the like.
I do agree with many of the criticisms about Oblivion that have been debated to nausiating effects on the official forums. But really, the end result is a fun game that never deserved the cynical reaction demonstrated by the so-called 'hard-core' CRPGers out there.
It's a fun game, and it was polished pretty well. Is it perfect? No. Then again, what game is? To learn that one gaming site has named Oblivion CRPG of the year really doesn't come as any surprise and I'm glad for Bethesda.
Now, hopefully Gothic 3 will get patched a little more so it won't drown into obscurity under its own weight… I really enjoy G3 and with some loving care via patches could still be a power-player among the recently released CRPGs… which I hope happens because I want to play a G4 and G5 and and G100!
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December 20th, 2006, 03:27
hmm youd think a 35-40 year old man would know how to spell "nauseating"
maybe video games ARE bad for you!
maybe video games ARE bad for you!
December 20th, 2006, 03:32
Originally Posted by DajjerNext cRPG? Uh, not to bug you or anything, but Bethesda hasn't actually ever made a game that could fairly be labelled "a cRPG". TES is a hack 'n slash dungeoncrawl series. Was from the beginning.
I know many hardcore players hate the game but with its success, it may allow developers an easier go when they're trying to get funding for their next CRPG.
Moriendor: BookWorm Adventures!
EDIT: also, this is kinda weird, but, uhm, isn't this newspost a duplicate of the one about the Gamespy awards by Dhruin, a few steps back?
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December 20th, 2006, 06:49
Originally Posted by KharnYou're right…sort of.
EDIT: also, this is kinda weird, but, uhm, isn't this newspost a duplicate of the one about the Gamespy awards by Dhruin, a few steps back?
Dhruin made a news post about GameSpy's top ten PC game picks which I hadn't noticed. My news post was about the winner of a specific category.
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December 20th, 2006, 09:11
a good choice, although personally i would have picked NWN2. either game was worthy.
December 20th, 2006, 10:50
Originally Posted by Moriendor11th Hour. Enough said.
After a couple of decades of gaming (if we include the C64 era), I have honestly yet to come across a game that truly requires any brain work. […] I really can't think of anything that was an intellectual challenge. Ever.
So… what are those brainy games that you are talking about?
SasqWatch
December 20th, 2006, 13:27
Here's a question: Which is the better GAME (not rpg), NWN2, Oblivion, or G3?
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December 20th, 2006, 13:42
I might have placed Oblivion as my 5th favorite and 4th 'best' RPG of the year, but I don't fault anyone for choosing it as #1 - it is an *amazing* technical achievement, even if hampered by the need to make it appealing as a console action game.
(faves - Avernum 4, Space Rangers 2, NWN2, Gothic 3 … )
(faves - Avernum 4, Space Rangers 2, NWN2, Gothic 3 … )
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SasqWatch
December 20th, 2006, 15:15
Gamespot nominated Oblivion for "best story of the year". I wonder if they have any clue how utterly ridiculous that is.
Keeper of the Watch
December 20th, 2006, 15:42
Originally Posted by doctor_kazI know - I wasn't going to say anything since it didn't win … but for the many good things I can say about Oblivion, 'great story' is *not* one of them.
Gamespot nominated Oblivion for "best story of the year". I wonder if they have any clue how utterly ridiculous that is.
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December 20th, 2006, 16:00
It's nominations like that which drive so many people's cynicism and suspicion of the gaming media. I don't consider myself a rabid Gothic fanboy at all, but I can understand where they are coming from in their complaints about media favoritism when Gamespot nominates games like Oblivion for awards like "best story". The story in that game sucked. It's hard to believe that a reasonable and unbiased person would honestly think that out of all the games that came out in 2006, Oblivion had one of the top four or five stories. It reminds me of when Gamespot wrote that Neverwinter Nights had a superb single player campaign that was one of the finest ever made. I sincerely wonder if money had to change hands for that one.
Keeper of the Watch
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