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December 21st, 2007, 10:28
I'm guessing it's like the other patches where some fixes won't work if you've already encountered the quest/bug. I'm almost tempted to restart my game, but I hope I won't have to.
SasqWatch
December 21st, 2007, 11:20
Well, that's a nice surprise.
I think I got a little over half-way through the game so this will finally give me incentive to start over and finish it.
I think I got a little over half-way through the game so this will finally give me incentive to start over and finish it.
Sentinel
December 21st, 2007, 11:30
Hard to say. Theyīre working on memory management. Sounds like theyīre digging a little deeper than with the older patches.
I would wait until 1.6, and then a couple of days to give them enough time to find out which 1.6 patch is final.
WoG posted that one more patch is planned. It will for example correctly implement environmental sounds like waterfalls.
The positive effects of the technical improvements will probably be much bigger than it seems now. They work as a multiplier and give the CPT something to build on.
I would wait until 1.6, and then a couple of days to give them enough time to find out which 1.6 patch is final.

WoG posted that one more patch is planned. It will for example correctly implement environmental sounds like waterfalls.
The positive effects of the technical improvements will probably be much bigger than it seems now. They work as a multiplier and give the CPT something to build on.
Traveler
December 22nd, 2007, 15:12
Does this mean that Spellbound will be using the G3 engine for G4?
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December 22nd, 2007, 19:02
Unlikely. Everybody expects them to use Vison because they have experience with it.
I guess the reason SB is helping with the patch is that JoWooD decided funding a man-year of coding is a relatively cheap way of getting a lot of positve buzz for themselves and for SB. In that case SB didnīt have much choice. All they can do is take the money and deliver solid work without pissing anybody off. PB is just an hour away.
The latter would also explain why the patch notes are so detailed. They want to make sure they come over as "neutral". Marketing might have tried to spin them around a little.
I guess the reason SB is helping with the patch is that JoWooD decided funding a man-year of coding is a relatively cheap way of getting a lot of positve buzz for themselves and for SB. In that case SB didnīt have much choice. All they can do is take the money and deliver solid work without pissing anybody off. PB is just an hour away.
The latter would also explain why the patch notes are so detailed. They want to make sure they come over as "neutral". Marketing might have tried to spin them around a little.
December 23rd, 2007, 02:40
Yes, seems what little I know from lack of speaking German, PB wrote the majority of their own engine so and the rest was third party, so Spellbound would have to license it.
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Trust me, most of the names I have been called you can't translate in any language…they're not even real words as much as a succession of violent images.
SasqWatch
December 23rd, 2007, 05:39
Well if it is just a PR move it is still a great move. Well done JoWood.
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December 23rd, 2007, 12:34
If they do manage to make all these fixes I would mind if they made G4 with the G3 engine.
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Favourite RPGs of all time: Wizardry 6, Ultima 7/7.2, Fallout2, Planescape Torment, Baldurs Gate 2+TOB, Jagged Alliance 2, Ravenloft: The stone prophet, Gothic 2, Realms of Arkania:Blade of destiny (not the HD version!!) and Secret of the Silver Blades.
December 24th, 2007, 09:39
I agree, and I wouldn't have any problems with PBs next game using the engine either - if you have a computer good enough to actually run G3 on full settings, there's hardly a game in the world that is as beautiful (except Crysis and a few other FPS games, obviously), and certainly no RPGs.
I assume that PB is also capable of removing those leaks, so if they re-use the engine, the next game should be solid.
I assume that PB is also capable of removing those leaks, so if they re-use the engine, the next game should be solid.
SasqWatch
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AI & Combat - enemies should not queue up 1 by 1…
January 2nd, 2008, 14:52
It would be nice if they did something about the bug/farcical design choice that prevents any more than *one* enemy actually engaging you in combat at any time. It grates so bad to see enemies standing still waiting for you to slaughter their comrades before they get involved.
Enemy AI and combat are crucial to G3's gameplay, so each successive patch ignoring them (after years of patching) is mindboggling.
Enemy AI and combat are crucial to G3's gameplay, so each successive patch ignoring them (after years of patching) is mindboggling.
Guest
January 2nd, 2008, 15:22
The combat system wonīt be fixed anytime soon. Itīs not even clear if itīs possible.
January 9th, 2008, 16:03
Originally Posted by GorathThats bad, I feel combat system atm almost unplayable. If you cant change orcs fighting you one by one, maybe you could reduce blockking hits, and add counter hits , so orcs would offer more challenge even they fight one by one, and for balance reduce potion cooldowns, so you could run bit off-combat and drink potion when it gets too hot.
The combat system wonīt be fixed anytime soon. Itīs not even clear if itīs possible.
Traveler
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