RPGWatch - Shortlisting the GOTY

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We need some help in shortlisting the RPGWatch Game of the Year contenders. I extracted the information from our database and put it here as is, unfiltered. There are far too many games in the list in my opinion, so I would like to shortlist this into something that can be managed better. The question for you is, which games should be in and which games should be removed.

So, I don't want to know what game released in 2018, you think is the best, but what games should be in the list (or should be removed).

The most anticipated list is as accurate as a drunken leprechaun throwing darts, so for that list I would like to not only know if games should be removed, but also what games should be added.

The lists can be found in the first comment to this post.

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The games released in 2018:
Title|Date|Genre|News Posts|Comments|Average
Pathfinder: Kingmaker |2018-09-25|RPG|83|3026|36
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire |2018-05-08|RPG|107|2635|25
The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep |2018-09-18|Dungeon Crawler|92|2436|26
Kingdom Come: Deliverance |2018-02-13|Action-RPG|235|2040|9
Underworld Ascendant |2018-11-15|RPG|120|1198|10
Fallout 76 |2018-11-14|RPG|20|1032|52
BattleTech |2018-04-24|Tactical RPG|90|839|9
Hero-U: Rogue to Redemption |2018-07-10|Adventure-RPG|116|495|4
Vampyr |2018-06-05|Action-RPG|64|445|7
Assassin's Creed: Odyssey |2018-10-05|Action-RPG|20|400|20
INSOMNIA: The Ark |2018-09-27|RPG|74|376|5
Call of Cthulhu |2018-10-30|Adventure-RPG|31|313|10
ATOM RPG: Post-apocalyptic indie game |2018-12-19|RPG|23|278|12
Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition |2018-03-27|RPG|10|274|27
Final Fantasy XV |2018-03-06|J-RPG|23|260|11
Vigilantes |2018-10-03|Tactical RPG|38|216|6
Ghost of a Tale |2018-03-13|RPG|72|209|3
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden |2018-12-04|Tactical RPG|21|190|9
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age |2018-09-04|J-RPG|14|178|13
Phantom Doctrine |2018-08-14|Strategy-RPG|23|171|7
Warhammer 40.000: Inquisitor - Martyr |2018-06-05|Action-RPG|30|161|5
Avernum 3: Ruined World |2018-01-31|RPG|4|151|38
Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales |2018-10-24|Card-Based RPG|11|144|13
Monster Hunter: World |2018-08-09|Action-RPG|6|137|23
Kenshi |2018-12-06|Strategy-RPG|17|129|8
Banner Saga 3 |2018-07-26|Strategy-RPG|26|124|5
Star Control: Origins |2018-09-20|Action-RPG|16|104|7
Valkyria Chronicles 4 |2018-09-25|Strategy-RPG|12|103|9
Shadows: Awakening |2018-08-31|Tactical RPG|18|95|5
Ni No Kuni 2: Revenant Kingdom |2018-03-23|J-RPG|19|89|5
Ash of Gods |2018-03-22|Tactical RPG|21|81|4
Divinity: Original Sin II Definitive Edition |2018-08-31|RPG|8|81|10
Tower of Time |2018-04-12|RPG|17|80|5
Star Traders: Frontiers |2018-08-01|RPG|27|76|3
Space Hulk: Tactics |2018-10-09|Tactical RPG|7|63|9
Aeon of Sands: The Trail |2018-12-04|Dungeon Crawler|10|61|6
For the King |2018-04-19|Roguelike|31|61|2
Jagged Alliance: Rage! |2018-12-06|Tactical RPG|7|61|9
State of Decay 2 |2018-05-22|Action-RPG|7|58|8
Yakuza 0 |2018-08-02|Action-RPG|4|57|14
Sword Legacy: Omen |2018-08-13|Tactical RPG|7|54|8
Dustwind |2018-08-15|Tactical RPG|3|53|18
Into The Breach |2018-02-27|Strategy-RPG|11|51|5
Shieldwall Chronicles: Swords of the North |2018-12-17|Tactical RPG|3|51|17
Achtung! Cthulhu Tactics |2018-10-04|Strategy-RPG|6|49|8
Shenmue 1 & 2 |2018-08-21|Action-RPG|9|45|5
The Warriorlock |2018-09-14|RPG|20|45|2
Book of Demons |2018-12-13|Card-Based RPG|8|39|5
Chrono Trigger |2018-02-27|J-RPG|5|39|8
The Council |2018-03-13|Adventure-RPG|13|38|3
Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus |2018-11-15|Strategy-RPG|7|38|5
Nantucket |2018-01-18|Strategy-RPG|3|36|12
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA |2018-04-16|J-RPG|7|33|5
Disgaea 5 Complete |2018-10-22|Strategy-RPG|4|31|8
The Great Gaias |2018-06-22|RPG|3|31|10
Dark Quest 2 |2018-03-06|Tactical RPG|4|30|8
Depth of Extinction |2018-09-27|Tactical RPG|15|30|2
We Happy Few |2018-08-10|Adventure-RPG|11|30|3
Deep Sky Derelicts |2018-09-26|Action-RPG|5|29|6
Exiled Kingdoms |2018-02-23|Action-RPG|2|24|12
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age |2018-02-01|J-RPG|4|24|6
Ys: Memories of Celceta |2018-07-25|J-RPG|3|23|8
Dead In Vinland |2018-04-12|Adventure-RPG|5|22|4
Extinction |2018-04-10|Action-RPG|5|20|4
Healer's Quest |2018-04-18|RPG|8|20|3
Sanctus Mortem |2018-11-16|J-RPG|5|20|4
The 7th Circle |2018-09-10|Dungeon Crawler|1|19|19
Dead Cells |2018-08-07|Metroidvania RPG|7|16|2
LEGRAND LEGACY: Tale of the Fatebounds |2018-01-24|J-RPG|3|15|5
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II |2018-02-14|J-RPG|3|15|5
Below |2018-12-14|Roguelike|7|14|2
Hevn |2018-09-24|Adventure-RPG|3|13|4
Immortal Unchained |2018-09-07|Action-RPG|3|13|4
Wartile |2018-02-08|Strategy-RPG|1|13|13
All Walls Must Fall |2018-02-23|Tactical RPG|3|12|4
Delver |2018-02-02|Roguelike|6|12|2
Infinite Adventures |2018-10-30|Dungeon Crawler|4|12|3
Knight Bewitched |2018-04-18|J-RPG|2|11|6
Pendula Swing |2018-08-15|Adventure-RPG|2|11|6
Unavowed |2018-08-08|Adventure-RPG|7|11|2
Azure Saga: Pathfinder |2018-03-14|J-RPG|4|10|3
Demon's Rise: Lords of Chaos |2018-04-25|Tactical RPG|3|10|3
Lost Sphear |2018-01-23|J-RPG|5|10|2
CrossCode |2018-09-20|Action-RPG|12|9|1
Moonlighter |2018-05-29|Action-RPG|5|9|2
Das Geisterschiff |2018-09-19|Adventure-RPG|1|8|8
City of the Shroud |2018-08-09|Tactical RPG|8|7|1
Crimson Keep |2018-11-29|Dungeon Crawler|2|7|4
Epic Battle Fantasy 5 |2018-11-30|RPG|1|7|7
Ancient Frontier: Steel Shadows |2018-12-11|Strategy-RPG|1|6|6
Ashen |2018-12-09|Action-RPG|6|6|1
Beast Quest |2018-03-13|Action-RPG|2|6|3
Veil of Crows |2018-10-18|Strategy-RPG|3|6|2
Graveyard Keeper |2018-08-15|Adventure-RPG|3|5|2
Mary Skelter Nightmares |2018-07-19|Dungeon Crawler|2|5|3
Pit People |2018-03-02|Strategy-RPG|3|5|2
Valthirian Arc: Red Covenant |2018-10-02|Action-RPG|1|5|5
Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk |2018-09-18|Dungeon Crawler|1|4|4
Niffelheim |2018-09-26|Adventure-RPG|5|3|1
Azuran Tales: Trials |2018-06-01|Metroidvania RPG|1|2|2
Devious |2018-07-26|Dungeon Crawler|2|2|1
Distortions |2018-03-02|Adventure-RPG|1|2|2
Heroes of Hammerwatch |2018-03-02|Roguelike|1|2|2
Just One Line |2018-09-12|Adventure-RPG|2|2|1
Secret of Mana |2018-02-15|J-RPG|5|2|0
The Swords of Ditto |2018-04-24|Action-RPG|3|2|1
Xploquest 2 |2018-02-20|Adventure-RPG|2|1|1
Dust and Salt |2018-01-25|Adventure-RPG|1|0|0
Fallen Legion+ |2018-01-05|Action-RPG|2|0|0
Gilded |2018-01-18|J-RPG|1|0|0
Once upon a Dungeon |2018-01-19|Roguelike|1|0|0
Siralim 3 |2018-10-15|RPG|1|0|0
Tangledeep |2018-02-01|Roguelike|2|0|0
The Greater Good |2018-10-23|Adventure-RPG|2|0|0
Towards The Pantheon |2018-05-16|RPG|3|0|0
Where the Water Tastes Like Wine |2018-02-28|Adventure-RPG|1|0|0

For most anticipated: the games, scheduled to be released in 2019:
Title|Date|Genre|News Posts|Comments|Average
Realms Beyond |2019-06-01|RPG|26|1003|39
Wasteland 3 |2019-05-01|Tactical RPG|30|481|16
Phoenix Point |2019-06-01|Tactical RPG|70|465|7
The Outer Worlds |2019-08-10|Action-RPG|5|196|39
Queen's Wish: The Conqueror |2019-05-30|RPG|7|193|28
Shenmue 3 |2019-08-27|RPG|35|188|5
Dungeon Kingdom: Sign of the Moon |2019-03-01|Dungeon Crawler|30|126|4
Greedfall |2019-03-15|RPG|13|126|10
Druidstone: The Secret of the Menhir Forest |2019-01-03|Tactical RPG|11|98|9
Wellspring: Altar of Roots |2019-03-01|RPG|11|95|9
Outward |2019-03-26|RPG|13|79|6
Biomutant |2019-06-01|Action-RPG|14|71|5
The Sinking City |2019-03-21|Adventure-RPG|13|64|5
Sunless Skies |2019-01-31|Roguelike|13|54|4
Praey for the Gods |2019-03-01|Action-RPG|7|51|7
Thea 2: The Shattering |2019-02-15|Strategy-RPG|14|50|4
Alaloth: Champions of the Four Kingdoms |2019-03-15|Action-RPG|3|49|16
Eitr |2019-06-01|Action-RPG|9|49|5
Mage's Initiation |2019-01-30|RPG|39|49|1
Two Worlds III |2019-05-01|Action-RPG|2|44|22
Grimshade |2019-02-15|Tactical RPG|6|36|6
Hellpoint |2019-02-01|Action-RPG|7|35|5
Theseus: Journey to Athens |2019-06-20|Adventure-RPG|2|35|18
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night |2019-03-01|Metroidvania RPG|9|24|3
Breach |2019-06-21|Action-RPG|3|22|7
Crying Suns |2019-03-01|Roguelike|3|16|5
HellSign |2019-05-05|Puzzle-RPG|8|16|2
Monomyth |2019-07-26|Action-RPG|1|16|16
Operencia: The Stolen Sun |2019-06-01|Dungeon Crawler|2|14|7
Rogue Empire: Dungeon Crawler RPG |2019-01-30|Roguelike|2|12|6
Eternity: The Last Unicorn |2019-06-25|Action-RPG|1|11|11
Jupiter Hell |2019-05-31|Roguelike|5|11|2
Divinia Chronicles: Relics of Gan-Ti |2019-12-01|Action-RPG|7|10|1
Iratus: Lord of the Dead |2019-05-01|Strategy-RPG|3|10|3
Winterfall |2019-03-01|RPG|1|9|9
The Iron Oath |2019-03-20|Tactical RPG|7|6|1
Long Gone Days |2019-04-03|RPG|3|4|1
Sinner: Sacrifice for Redemption |2019-02-19|Action-RPG|2|3|2
Silicon Void |2019-08-01|Dungeon Crawler|1|2|2
Code Vein |2019-03-27|Action-RPG|11|1|0
Luckless Seven |2019-03-20|Card-Based RPG|1|1|1
Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition |2019-01-11|J-RPG|1|0|0
 
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Have fun as you try to do this every year. Still remember trying to update both lists as news-editor a few years back. It was ultimately a pain in the ass in the end.:lol:
 
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wew....that's a long list
Games to be removed from GOTY
1.Ash of Gods
2.Call of Cthulhu
3.Warhammer: 40K Martyr
3. Fallout 76
4. Immortal Unchained
5.We Happy Few
6.Where the Water Tastes Like Wine
7. Jagged Alliance: Rage
8. Insomnia: the Ark
9. Vampyr
10. Bard's Tale IV
11. Neverwinter Nights: EE
12. underworld: Ascendant
 
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for goty, depends how many can enter the poll

Ash of Gods 2018-03-22 Tactical RPG
Ashen 2018-12-09 Action-RPG
Assassin's Creed: Odyssey 2018-10-05 Action-RPG
ATOM RPG: Post-apocalyptic indie game 2018-12-19 RPG
Avernum 3: Ruined World 2018-01-31 RPG
Banner Saga 3 2018-07-26 Strategy-RPG
Book of Demons 2018-12-13 Card-Based RPG
Ghost of a Tale 2018-03-13 RPG
INSOMNIA: The Ark 2018-09-27 RPG
Kenshi 2018-12-06 Strategy-RPG
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2018-02-13 Action-RPG
Monster Hunter: World 2018-08-09 Action-RPG
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden 2018-12-04 Tactical RPG
Pathfinder: Kingmaker 2018-09-25 RPG
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire 2018-05-08 RPG
The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep 2018-09-18 Dungeon Crawler
Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales 2018-10-24 Card-Based RPG
Valkyria Chronicles 4 2018-09-25 Strategy-RPG
Vampyr 2018-06-05 Action-RPG
Warhammer 40.000: Inquisitor - Martyr 2018-06-05 Action-RPG

+Spellforce 3 (not on the list)
 
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Games to be Added
1. Shadows the Awakening
 
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If I had to do the filtering, I would start by removing all J-RPGs, Metroidvania-RPGs, and Roguelikes. Then I would remove anything that is an add-on or improved version. That would reduce the list with at least 20 games, but would still leave 80+ games.
The next thing I would do is check the number of news posts we have on each of the games and use that as an additional filter to get to half of the games, so some 40, which is more than enough in my opinion (with the idea that more news posts means more interest).



Or, if there is too much backlash on the first action, I would just do the second action and come also to some 40 games :)
 
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No need for anticipated games poll, Cyberpunk will win haha.
 
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Games to be Added
1. Shadows the Awakening
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Oh that looks like something is wrong with the script extracting the information from the database. Lemme fix that.
 
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There is so much suspense to know the GOTY.

Great list by the way to advocate for PC gaming not dead.
 
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What should be the parameters for shortlisting? If not quality (which games we think were best) then it probably should be games with a wider appeal on this site. I say that as someone who plays and enjoys some pretty niche games. Most JRPGs have no chance to make in on the RPGWatch GOTY list and that goes for most small indies as well. I'd say (just from reading news and following threads) the following games seem like contenders. That means enough people have played and posted positive things about them that I predict that they have a chance to get in the top ten list:

Assassin's Creed: Odyssey
Atom RPG
Avernum 3
Banner Saga 3
Battletech
Call of Cthulu
Disgea 5
Fallout 76
Ghost of a Tale
Hero U
Insomnia
Kenshi
Kingdom Come: Delivererance
Monster Hunter World
Mutant Year Zero
Pathfinder: Kingmaker
Pillars of Eternity 2
Star Control:Origins
The Bard's Tale 4
The Council
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2
Tower of Time
Thronebreaker
Valkyria Chirnicles 4
Vampyr
Yakuza 0
 
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Just breezed through it as am having some hangover (surprise, surprise).

FO76 is mmo. If mmos are allowed on the list okay, but...
We Happy Few is not really RPG and regardless of it's (artistic?) potential was released in such poor state I'm unsure anyone will ever vote for it.
 
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For 2019


Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
Druidstone: The Secret of the Menhir Forest
Mage's Initiation
Phoenix Point
Queen's Wish: The Conqueror
Realms Beyond
Shenmue 3
Sunless Skies
The Outer Worlds
The Sinking City
Thea 2: The Shattering
Two Worlds III
Wasteland 3
 
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henriquejr said:
Question is: Will it be released in 2019?
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What's the usual rule here? Is a "I hope we release 2019" enough, or does it have to be an officially planned date?

And regarding the actions suggested by @Myrthos;: I dont know how easy that would be, but would'nt it make sense to count comments on news posts instead?
 
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I agree that Fallout 76 is a MMO, and should not be included. Besides, it shouldn't be included on any list which is talking about GOTY anyway, unless you want to pollute and taint the whole list. :p

For 2019 most anticipated, definitely Realms Beyond and Wasteland 3.

You're missing Black Geyser: Couriers of Darkness, which they estimate a 2019 release date. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/grapeocean/black-geyser-couriers-of-darkness

Some games that I guess can be described as having some rpg elements, but perhaps strictly not a rpg, but that have high anticipation:

Left Alive
Resident Evil 2 (remake)

Edited/Updated: In general, there are way too many obscure games on the list, that most people will not know or even have heard of. I am here all the time and a hardcore gamer, but I don't know 75% or more of those games...ok, maybe my tastes run to more high profile games, but I'm just sayin'.
If I don't know many of those games, 99% of the gaming public won't know either.

I guess what I'm suggesting is that list can and should be dramatically pruned.
 
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Cacheperl said:
And regarding the actions suggested by @Myrthos: I dont know how easy that would be, but would'nt it make sense to count comments on news posts instead?
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Well when I was News-editor it was mostly guesswork. Basically because most games never gave a concrete date or just give an estimate. Usually I just used TBA.

Anyway that was just me I'm not Myrthos. I also know my three picks already.:)
 
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Just my opinion like Myrthos for the GOTY list.

Remove the following games.

  1. J-RPG's
  2. Roguelike's
  3. Metroidvania RPG's
  4. Adventure-RPG's
List will be pruned by half or more.
 
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