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August 28th, 2018, 17:45
Originally Posted by joxer View Post
You do. Unless by games you mean phone scamware.
Uh, no. Consoles uses something called a gamepad which comes with some advantages (analog movement instead of digital WASD-controls, high comfort/extremely ergonomic), some disadvantages (slightly worse aim, strafing can be far worse or nonexistant).

Phone games are nowhere near consoles. I can tell you have been living under a rock since Nintendo 8bit..
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August 28th, 2018, 17:53
Hidden message in the demo stream.
Sorry to have kept you waiting for this for so long!

Did you like what you saw? Because for us, the fact that we're finally showing you Cyberpunk 2077 is HUGE. Please go to our forums, twitter, facebook, discord, and do tell what you think. Is the game world how you imagined? Do you see what we meant by "immersion" when we talked about CP2077 being an FPP RPG? How does our vision of "cyberpunk by day" make you feel? We really want to know.

Aside from that, we think we owe you a few words of explanation on why we're showing you this gameplay now, some time after industry professionals and media saw it at E3 and gamescom.

Each time we discussed the idea of showing the game to you (and we discussed this idea a lot), we were ending up in this "we're not 100% sure" limbo. Why? Because (for most people), when a game dev shows gameplay footage from their game, it means that this is how the game is going to look or play like. It's not the case here. Cyberpunk 2077 is deep in development. We have a lot of design ideas, a lot of mechanics being playtested, but we don't know what we'll end up with at launch. This makes publishing videos like what you just saw risky --we don't want gamers saying 'but in that previous video that gun was shooting differently', or 'why did you change the interface?'. Change is inherent to game development and there's a ton of things being modified each day. Our fear was (and kind of still is) that you'll think what you just saw is how Cyberpunk 2077 will look like 1:1.

What gave us that extra confidence to show you a work in progress game? Good initial feedback from people who are accustomed to see games at various stages of development. What they told us (and they told us they really liked what they saw) gave us the boost we needed to show the current version of Cyberpunk 2077 to the most passionate and insightful audience --you.

So… here's what Cyberpunk 2077 looks like today (or rather looked like when we recorded the video). We sincerely hope you liked it.

Again, thank you for your patience and all the thoughts you shared with us.

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Also the demo ran on an Intel i7-8700K and GeForce GTX 1080 Ti.
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August 28th, 2018, 17:56
Originally Posted by Myrthos View Post
I don't know about that. I was in the front row, looking at a big screen and after a while I felt a bit of motion sickness
Yup, that may happen to me, too. Especially with a very large screen.

In the video, I mostly noted the slow speed of head (eye?) movements, not movements of the whole body. Maybe it's not only the speed, but also the "smoothness" of the movement?

I dont expect this to be a problem while gaming, unless they have a very odd control scheme.
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August 28th, 2018, 18:13
Originally Posted by wolfgrimdark View Post
Apologies on the wall of text but thought I would explain the view point of someone who always puts themselves into games … and I have been playing "myself" in games ever since I played the first Pools of Radiance RPG.
I appreciate thoughtful posts, so no apologies necessary IMO.

We don't play the same way in the sense that you imagine the character is you and I don't, but we don't really disagree on the point I was making. I wasn't arguing that one couldn't play as themselves; I was saying that being first perfect didn't ipso facto mean the character I'm playing has to be me, and therefore didn't find it strange to have the first person protagonist voiced. You must agree with that because you mention several examples of games in which the protagonist is viewed in 3rd person (Mass Effect, etc), and that doesn't keep you from imagining that person as you. I prefer first person for this game for a whole host of reasons, but I reject the idea that because it's in first person, there's no way to imagine that the character is anyone but me.
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August 28th, 2018, 18:17
Originally Posted by Winterfart View Post
Speaking of voice-over, I'm 100% certain the actress playing female V is the same who did Ciri. Same timbre.

And I wonder if Mike Pondsmith isn't the one playing Dex DeShawn.
Have you heard Mike Pondsmith talk? He sounds absolutely nothing like that.
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August 28th, 2018, 18:21
Originally Posted by Couchpotato View Post
Hidden message in the demo stream.

Also the demo ran on an Intel i7-8700K and GeForce GTX 1080 Ti.
The E3 Demo sure, this, we don't know. It's not likely its the same build since some time has passed. But yes, i would say its running on the best HW they have to show it as good as it can look..

If Witcher 3 is anything to go by we can expected downgrades, so don't trick yourself with their warning that "graphics are not final" it might not necessarally mean they will be better.
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August 28th, 2018, 18:26
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A used PS4 is as cheap as a decent graphics card for a PC.. no $1000 hardware needed at all unless you're like me, a total graphics and hardware enthusiast, but then you only have yourself to blame really That kind of money is absolutely not needed to enjoy games.

..and don't get me started on "but i need a mouse to enjoy games", you don't.
Odd you pretend to speak for everyone.

The key word is “enjoy”

If I had to give up my PC and just game on my PS4 then I would not enjoy gaming. There are several kinds of games that I just won’t play on console.

I definitely wouldn’t play this game or any other shooter on a console. The controller isn’t just a bit less accurate it’s substantially less accurate. Don’t believe me just ask all the controller user that get owned by K&M users in cross play games. So much so that games that offer that feature have to make it so controller players don’t get matched with K&M, it’s just too much of an advantage.

I’d be down to just sports games and any souls type game that released. Thinking about it I’d probably stop gaming if console was my only option.
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August 28th, 2018, 18:41
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Odd you pretend to speak for everyone.

The key word is “enjoy”

If I had to give up my PC and just game on my PS4 then I would not enjoy gaming. There are several kinds of games that I just won’t play on console.

I definitely wouldn’t play this game or any other shooter on a console. The controller isn’t just a bit less accurate it’s substantially less accurate.
It's not good enough for competitive gaming, but once you get good it's not that far off at all. It's a very different technique from using a mouse so it's not exactly a smooth transition, and getting good takes time and effort.

I don't speak for everyone, but please don't pretend that there isnt a lot of very immature PC users who likes to pretend there's some kind of war between console users and PC (same goes for a lot of console users), and that you have to pick a side. It's really stupid. Both has strengths and weaknesses, i'm more of a PC gamer myself, but it's also because i'm a graphics enthusiast, if i was on a budget or just wasn't super into having the best graphics possible (or mods), then consoles all the way.

The way better price, more comfort and the advantages of analog movement control (in third person games this is really helpful, first person - not so much..) does make consoles a very enjoyable platform, but yes, it does take time to learn the gamepad controls (to get good with it).
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August 28th, 2018, 18:42
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The E3 Demo sure, this, we don't know. It's not likely its the same build since some time has passed. But yes, i would say its running on the best HW they have to show it as good as it can look..

If Witcher 3 is anything to go by we can expected downgrades, so don't trick yourself with their warning that "graphics are not final" it might not necessarally mean they will be better.
Never said otherwise as every game gets optimized or downgraded.

Just posted the specs of the demo for those who were curious.
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August 28th, 2018, 18:55
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Never said otherwise as every game gets optimized or downgraded.

Just posted the specs of the demo for those who were curious.
Again, for the e3 demo sure. For this, we dont know Its most likely not recorded at e3, i don't see the point in that at all, more likely is that they use a more recent build, it can be 1080ti it can be 4 1080ti in SLI, we dont know.
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August 28th, 2018, 19:05
My 2 cents on the mini debate re: pc gaming vs console -- I don't like playing on a controller either. I am firmly a mouse and keyboard person when it comes to gaming. A controller feels so clumsy and too much "like a toy" in my hands. The only console I ever owned was the Atari 2600 a long long time ago.
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August 28th, 2018, 19:06
Originally Posted by vurt View Post
Again, for the e3 demo sure. For this, we dont know Its most likely not recorded at e3, i don't see the point in that at all, more likely is that they use a more recent build, it can be 1080ti it can be 4 1080ti in SLI, we dont know.
Link - https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-20…d-projekt-red/
Speaking about the demo, CD Projekt Red's Marcin Iwinski told Kotaku what we were shown was a real build of the game, and was running on its REDengine4. As posted to the game's official Discord, CDPR's junior community specialist Alicja Kozera revealed the PC specs that made it so:

CPU: Intel i7-8700K @ 3.70 GHz
MB: ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I GAMING
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V, 2x16GB, 3000MHz, CL15
GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
SSD: Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB M.2 PCIe
PSU: Corsair SF600 600W
But yeah it was only for the demo.

Anyway we all know games get minimum and maximum requirements. So when it's officially announced it will vary based on your system. Nothing new really.
"We are thinking about optimization from scratch, about how the streaming works, how to introduce global illumination, for instance, without overwhelming the CPU," Pietras tells CGMagazine. "We knew we are developing the game for PC, PS4, and Xbox One. And we started the process of optimization right at the start. So that’s why what you see running on the demo is a PC, which is like i7 and 1080 Ti."
Now I'm dropping the mike and outta here, Good day everyone.
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August 28th, 2018, 19:26
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My 2 cents on the mini debate re: pc gaming vs console -- I don't like playing on a controller either. I am firmly a mouse and keyboard person when it comes to gaming. A controller feels so clumsy and too much "like a toy" in my hands. The only console I ever owned was the Atari 2600 a long long time ago.
I figured that one out already, basically you're clueless when it comes to current gen consoles, and most likely you've only used one very briefly. It seems to be the red thread here.

There are plenty of crappy mouses and keyboards out there as well, yet i would never use them as an argument "PC controls feels cheap and like toys in comparison to a controller". A controller does not feel clumsy in comparison to having to use both a keyboard and a mouse, quite the opposite, it's way more comfortable and ergonomic + you can choose how to sit (well, more options anyways), something which is not possible with the more clumsy setup of mouse+keyb.
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August 28th, 2018, 19:47
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Again, for the e3 demo sure. For this, we dont know Its most likely not recorded at e3, i don't see the point in that at all, more likely is that they use a more recent build, it can be 1080ti it can be 4 1080ti in SLI, we dont know.
This is the same video they showed at E3.

I agree with you about expecting so-called downgrades, though. Running something in isolation is much different from running an actual game with all its systems and moving parts. Optimization and the need to run it at 30fps on consoles will most likely result in changes here and there.
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August 28th, 2018, 19:49
So much tribalism, so much angst. I've been PC gaming since I got a Commodore Vic 20 when I was 12 or so, and do so regularly to this day. At the same time (your mind is now blown, I'm sure) I play games on consoles regularly too! For some reason, I have never found it necessary to anoint a winner. I play games with different control methods and on different platforms and if the game itself is good and well made for that platform, presto magico I have a good time playing it.
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August 28th, 2018, 19:52
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This is the same video they showed at E3.
Source for this claim?

AFAIK e3 wasnt a pre-recorded video, it was gameplay they showed with a 1080ti (Couchpotato posted the specs above). Eh, hard to say, maybe it just means they recorded the video with a 1080ti though.

Edit: 17GB HQ video here btw:

https://www.gamersyde.com/download_c…-42749_en.html
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August 28th, 2018, 20:21
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I figured that one out already, basically you're clueless when it comes to current gen consoles, and most likely you've only used one very briefly. It seems to be the red thread here.

There are plenty of crappy mouses and keyboards out there as well, yet i would never use them as an argument "PC controls feels cheap and like toys in comparison to a controller". A controller does not feel clumsy in comparison to having to use both a keyboard and a mouse, quite the opposite, it's way more comfortable and ergonomic + you can choose how to sit (well, more options anyways), something which is not possible with the more clumsy setup of mouse+keyb.
No, I have tried modern controllers. I have a play station controller. I also have another controller besides that. Some games that I play are meant for controllers and only play well with them, so I know how modern controllers feel in the hand.

Again, they do not feel comfortable at all. And I don't care about gaming while sitting in a relaxed posture on a sofa or couch. That has no appeal to me at all. You may love it, but that is your thing.

You are projecting your own preferences onto everyone else, it is very illogical. Other people know what pleases them and what they find more comfortable, better than you do, trust me.
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August 28th, 2018, 20:32
My opinions on the gameplay trailer (after watching it twice and a half).

What I don't like:
- Red for the UI, hopefully that can be changed or there is a colorblind version
- itemization and level system feels like they took TW3 systems and just ported it over, I wasn't a fan of it in TW3 personally
- the floating damage numbers, but TW3 already had a toggle for that so I expect the same in CP
- lack of enemies feedback outside blood spurting to getting hit in combat outside reaching HP 0
- the amount of bullets (10+) required to kill a standard enemy with a pistol, hopefully that change after the balance passes (especially if they add proper recoils)

What I like
- While I don't like the color used, I very like the ncurses UI look.
- I kinda like the Unreal Tournament jumping/double jumping
- the car chase, I expected it to be a lot more clunkier and annoying
- 1st person interactions with panels and such
- contextual dialogue interrupts (the use gun stuff)
- the "living world" atmosphere
- the head-jacking + remove hacking
- dermal implants 3D printing (lol)
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August 28th, 2018, 20:36
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What's missing from the PnP game that would make it a better crpg in your opinion? Not everything in a PnP RPG translates well to a video game.
There's a lot they could of taken from the P&P game. CP 2020 is known for its large variety of attributes and skills. Mechanics like Cyberpsychosis would also be neat.

This game would of also been perfect for a complex faction system, considering CP 2020 often revolves around working for different gangs and corporations.

Finally, this game doesn't capture the aesthetic of CP 2020 at all.

Instead, the combat is fast-paced and visceral, and because of that, some people think it looks too "actiony". I think it looks like something I actually want to play.
I want to play it too, but I think it's wasted potential for the license. This game could of been outstanding if they stayed true to the P&P game, but this looks like a generic open world ARPG. The gameplay reminds me of modern looter-shooters like Fallout 4.
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August 28th, 2018, 20:40
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- it has stats, you can increase with leveling and cyberware
- skills, you increase through direct use
- perks you gain through leveling
- street creed perks you gain by doing missions ( possibly similar to PB games)
- wide range of cyberware that opens up completely different gameplay possibilities
- wide range of weapon mods that does the same ( like they've shown a katana with electromagnetic field generator mod)
- background customization options
Believe what you want, but the proof is in the 50 minute gameplay. This is a streamlined ARPG with looter-shooter inspired combat. It looks and plays nothing like the Cyberpunk 2020 P&P game that it's based on. This is an FPS first and RPG second.
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