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October 11th, 2021, 21:22
Interesting that Intel will use TSMC's foundry instead of their own for those GPUs. Maybe for the performances, maybe for other reasons as well: apparently they will do the same with some of their CPUs to keep up with the volumes, consumption and yield.
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October 11th, 2021, 21:26
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Big question here is how attractive are their cards for crypto miners?
I know that at least one country has made cryptocurrency official, but I'm wondering if it's not time to stop this nonsense and find a less power-hungry method.
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I know that at least one country has made cryptocurrency official, but I'm wondering if it's not time to stop this nonsense and find a less power-hungry method.
The US is thinking of making the currency more official also. Texas is leading the charge and trying to attract lager crypto mining firms in what they call the new gold rush.

Some of those server rooms have thousands of cards working 24 hrs a day.
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October 11th, 2021, 21:32
Well, Texas isn't exactly known for being a hotbed of intelligence.
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October 11th, 2021, 22:42
A friend of mine called, wants to buy a new PC, asked anything he should know I recommend.

So I actually browsed some stores, this is a disaster.
Everything and I mean everything except external storage is more expensive than 3 years ago. And I'm not talking about brand new stuff. Outdated technology has a higher price today than on it's release.
Something else unbelieveble before, became a reality: it's cheaper to buy a built rig with a name then buy every part separately.

WTF.
What to tell him, what?
I told him to prepare tons of $.
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The funny thing is that cryptocurrency came about to create a currency that wasn't regulated by the government.

Somehow it became a tradable commodity and many sold out to cash in on regulated dollars.

Now those that didn't sellout will find their cryptocurrency government regulated one day and defeat the whole purpose of it to begin with. But I guess on the plus side they will be filthy rich.

As for intel gnu's I'm not really interested in price/performance trade off so wake me if the overtake Nvidia.
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October 11th, 2021, 22:47
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A friend of mine called, wants to buy a new PC so anything he should know I recommend.
What to tell him, what?
I told him to prepare tons of $.

Then I actually browsed some stores, this is a disaster.
Everything and I mean everything except external storage is more expensive than 3 years ago. And I'm not talking about brand new stuff. Outdated technology has a higher price today than on it's release. WTF.
Tell him to browse New-egg for pre-built gaming machines or browse one of the many online sellers of pre-built Pc's. Otherwise you'll be paying a lot more to build it yourself.

Open-box or refurnished is a good option as well.
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As for intel gnu's I'm not really interested in price/performance trade off so wake me if the overtake Nvidia.
More then likely never gonna happen but they can become another choice like AMD. I'm more worried about the software side and how well games will be optimized.

For years we've been stuck with one dominate maker and AMD on the cheaper side. So more competition is good. Though cheap doesn't apply with current prices.
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October 26th, 2021, 23:25
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You can keep nVidia and their overpriced garbage.

Seriously AMD as well the current GPU prices should be considered price gouging. Another competitor into the monopoly both nVidia and AMD have is a good thing.
The free market would dictate otherwise, considering they can't keep GPUs in stock at any price. Blame crypto miners or whatever else you want, but supplies are scarce and getting scarcer for a lot of electronic devices. Apple announced that they had to cut their new production of the next iPhone by something like 10 million units due to chip and rare precious metal shortages. This is why you also can't buy a new PS5 etc.

Sony could raise the price on the PS5 to $999 a unit and they would still sell out, this has been proven by what people are willing to pay to get their hands on one.

A friend of mine who works with supply chains the other day and I were talking about how "mid range" products are going away and price/profit margins are more going towards mass-producing cheap crap that everybody can afford, and on the other end producing very expensive items that are mainly purchased by those we'd call the "top 10%" in the US, at least. So you either go low-end disposable or you go high-end and durable, if you can afford it.

I hope that the supply issues for GPUs clear up eventually because one day I will want to upgrade my 2080.

Will Intel bring more competition or just more competition for raw resources in an already struggling market? Time will tell!
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October 26th, 2021, 23:36
You can ignore my grumbling as I'm just getting frustrated with the whole market in general. Inflation is leaning towards hyper-inflation, and the free market doesn't help.

As you can tell I'm not one of the upper 10% who can waste a thousand dollars easily.
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