In this post on Reddit the details of the Fallout 4 survival mode are given:
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Fallout 4 - Survival Mode Details
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I did not play Fallout 4, yet, so maybe my impression is wrong, but disabling fast travel and reducing the range at which you get notified of locations of interest sounds like it will just increase tediousness rather than introduce a new challenge.
I would have considered survival mode, otherwise.
I would have considered survival mode, otherwise.
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Disabling fast travel actually works remarkably well in F:NV. But this is FO4 we're talking about, with a a neverending stream of forgettable [timed] radiant quests that routinely send you to the opposite side of the map to babysit your settlement's turrets as they mow down yet another pointless zombie ghoul horde.
Still, a lot of this is likely throwing darts at different potential concepts. It's all new territory for Bethesda: increasing gameplay and difficulty via means other than mob health and damage. If nothing else, the engine will afterward contain the base functionality with which modders can work from instead of having to bolt on something improvised and clunkier.
One thing I really dislike though is limiting saves to when you rest. This, along with only being able to 'wait' while seated in a chair, is remarkably contrived. Give me an option to disallow saving during combat instead. Luckily, it sounds simple enough to tweak with a mod (if it goes live).
Still, a lot of this is likely throwing darts at different potential concepts. It's all new territory for Bethesda: increasing gameplay and difficulty via means other than mob health and damage. If nothing else, the engine will afterward contain the base functionality with which modders can work from instead of having to bolt on something improvised and clunkier.
One thing I really dislike though is limiting saves to when you rest. This, along with only being able to 'wait' while seated in a chair, is remarkably contrived. Give me an option to disallow saving during combat instead. Luckily, it sounds simple enough to tweak with a mod (if it goes live).
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Making it all optional would go a long way to reducing a lot of complaints
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Absolutely. I like most of the ideas, but I have no desire to play without being able to save whenever I want. I also want to be able to fast travel.
I especially like the concept of companions not healing automatically after falling in battle.
Weird... I thought it already worked that way. I never noticed that crippled limbs healed on their own.
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I can't speak for F4 since I'm yet to get properly stuck into it - however, I rarely use fast travel in Bethesda's other games, and usually just look for a mod to disable it altogether. Instantly "teleporting" anywhere in the world without any penalty just feels too much like cheating to me, or like it's making the game more "casual" or "console-y" (sorry, I don't mean that to sound provocative). I like the idea that when I decide to travel somewhere, that decision has consequences and cannot be made lightly; it also begs other decisions, like how much gear am I going to risk carrying, or whether or not I'm going to have enough ammo.
I don't find travelling tedious however, in fact quite the opposite. I would hate to play by "fast forwarding" through much of the game just to get to the next quest objective or scripted event. I actually find that loads of fun stuff "just happens" when I'm out, trying to get somewhere, especially when I'm playing with other survival mods of the sort that are being described here. It's cool being driven by hunger to sneak in and steal food from a raider camp; or being forced to find shelter in some abandoned, unexplored ruin, having just run our of ammo; or to have to face the moral dilemma of whether I should kill that scavenger for her weapon.
Having said the above, however, I recognise this style of play isn't for everyone. Maybe the answer for some is with a compromise, like how Morrowind implemented fast-travel. I also loved Skyrim's ScenicCarrages mod, or F3's Wanderers Edition motorcycle option.
I'm still not convinced about no optional saving however. I would hate to lose hours of game-play due to a crash or because my rabbit suddenly decided to jump on my keyboard! Maybe if there were more death alternatives, that might also help.
I don't find travelling tedious however, in fact quite the opposite. I would hate to play by "fast forwarding" through much of the game just to get to the next quest objective or scripted event. I actually find that loads of fun stuff "just happens" when I'm out, trying to get somewhere, especially when I'm playing with other survival mods of the sort that are being described here. It's cool being driven by hunger to sneak in and steal food from a raider camp; or being forced to find shelter in some abandoned, unexplored ruin, having just run our of ammo; or to have to face the moral dilemma of whether I should kill that scavenger for her weapon.
Having said the above, however, I recognise this style of play isn't for everyone. Maybe the answer for some is with a compromise, like how Morrowind implemented fast-travel. I also loved Skyrim's ScenicCarrages mod, or F3's Wanderers Edition motorcycle option.
I'm still not convinced about no optional saving however. I would hate to lose hours of game-play due to a crash or because my rabbit suddenly decided to jump on my keyboard! Maybe if there were more death alternatives, that might also help.
You sound like I did before playing FO4. 
I'm pretty anal when it comes to realism in games, but fast travel is almost a necessity in FO4. Otherwise, you'll waste hours of real time walking through areas you've already cleared just to get back to your base.
Think of it like the "take all" option. It's not very realistic for your character to be able to pick up 7 items instantaneously, but it would probably drive you crazy after awhile if you always had to click on every single piece of loot separately.
That said, I never use fast travel to get to a destination for a quest or exploring. I only use it when going back to my home base.
I'm pretty anal when it comes to realism in games, but fast travel is almost a necessity in FO4. Otherwise, you'll waste hours of real time walking through areas you've already cleared just to get back to your base.
Think of it like the "take all" option. It's not very realistic for your character to be able to pick up 7 items instantaneously, but it would probably drive you crazy after awhile if you always had to click on every single piece of loot separately.
That said, I never use fast travel to get to a destination for a quest or exploring. I only use it when going back to my home base.
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I laid aside the game a while ago about two-thirds through, I think I'll pick it up again when this comes out.
The lock on fast travel is going to save me from myself -- part of what burned me out on the game was zipping back to my base with a colossal load of crap for storage after every single mission.
I laid aside the game a while ago about two-thirds through, I think I'll pick it up again when this comes out.
The lock on fast travel is going to save me from myself -- part of what burned me out on the game was zipping back to my base with a colossal load of crap for storage after every single mission.