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February 15th, 2020, 04:08
Originally Posted by Drithius View Post
Yeah, I did, and I also looked for clarification based on conflicting stories and got met with the same patronizing attitude.

Forget it. I'd like to rescind my vote. Don't want to be a part of this circlejerk.
No offense, but you are taking this waaaay too seriously.
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February 15th, 2020, 10:12
@purpleblob , I summon you to assist your fellow pathfinder voter drithius in coming to his senses. He is currently on a plane too distant for many here to reach and perhaps your femanine charms can access places us dumb blokes struggle with. While the solitary vote for Minecraft will undoubtedly not be missed I feel sure you're the person to call upon should any major votes for pathfinder be in danger of vanishing.
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February 15th, 2020, 13:29
Originally Posted by crpgnut View Post
Unless we add in MMO games, Skyrim also sold more copies than most of the rest of the titles…combined. I confess to being impressed by capitalism though.
Skyrim and Diablo 3 have both sold the same number of copies, 30M.

Think about how absolutely, gut-bustingly hilarious it would be if someone argued with a straight face that Diablo 3 is the best RPG of all time. Because it sold the most copies!

And now you know how the rest of us feel when it gets said about Skyrim, using the same reasoning.
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February 15th, 2020, 13:37
What a bummer as I would never call Diablo 3 the best RPG/ Game of the Decade.
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February 15th, 2020, 14:36
Originally Posted by DR490N View Post
More importantly : let's go back to the "decade" debate, please. :-)
In fact, I hereby suggest that we do weekly "game of the decade" votes. Each considering the 10 years previous to that week.

Originally Posted by Stingray View Post
Think about how absolutely, gut-bustingly hilarious it would be if someone argued with a straight face that Diablo 3 is the best RPG of all time.
*puts on straight face*

So …

*cough*

The best …

*cough*

Nope. Can't do it.
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February 15th, 2020, 14:38
Originally Posted by Couchpotato View Post
What a bummer as I would never call Diablo 3 the best RPG/ Game of the Decade.
Diablo 3 might actually be the Worst RPG of the Decade, at least among games of a similar budget level. Although I'm ashamed to admit: I actually got more enjoyment out of it than Skyrim. Skyrim isn't going to beat out D3 for Worst, but as someone said earlier, it's definitely taking home the Most Overrated RPG of the Decade award.
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February 15th, 2020, 14:45
Yeah well the only reason I love Bethesda games is mods.

Without them I don't think I would enjoy them as much.
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February 15th, 2020, 15:48
But should a game be value for what the developer provided or the players provide ?

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Yeah well the only reason I love Bethesda games is mods.

Without them I don't think I would enjoy them as much.
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February 15th, 2020, 15:51
I'd say overall, real world "value" would have to include what players have provided, but when critiquing a game I think you only consider what the developer provided. So for example, when voting for RPG of the Decade, personally I'd consider it inappropriate to take 3rd party mods into account. Unity is not the RPG of the Decade because someone created Kingmaker inside of it.
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February 15th, 2020, 17:01
The developer provided a really good modding system that is known, fairly easy to use (well relatively), and so this also needs to be taken into consideration - that mod support. Without this great game to begin with there wouldn't be a single mod. Something so many forget. The overall foundation is great, mods are what add all the fun decorations and accessories.
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February 15th, 2020, 17:18
Sure, I wouldn't have a problem taking the existence of a mod system into account. But not the mods themselves.
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February 15th, 2020, 17:28
Yeah, I'd also not add additional value for really good mods. Unless you are voting for a total conversion like enderal. That vote then goes to Enderal though and not to the original game itself.

Another question would be if you are to vote for a game at it's release state or a patched state.
Or…if a game was fixed afterwards…does it get a reduction for being released in a horrible state?
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February 15th, 2020, 17:49
Originally Posted by Kordanor View Post
Another question would be if you are to vote for a game at it's release state or a patched state.
Or…if a game was fixed afterwards…does it get a reduction for being released in a horrible state?
To me the games current state would be what counts in this kind of poll. Most polished at release is another category.
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February 15th, 2020, 19:36
For me it would be the state of the game I played.
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February 15th, 2020, 19:41
Since the main point of this kind of exercise, in my opinion, is to point people to games they haven't played, it would be the state they will be able to play the game.
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February 15th, 2020, 20:30
Originally Posted by Myrthos View Post
For me it would be the state of the game I played.
I stand corrected. That's what I should've said. Unless I replay a game no bug fixing will matter if it's done after I'm done. I will however adjust my opinion accordingly if I replay at a later date. WL2, PoE and DOS comes to mind. I think no less of any of those games because how they were released, because all of them were a lot better the second time through and I base my opinion solely on that.

I WILL think less of the developer for not releasing a finished product though, but that's another discussion.
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February 15th, 2020, 20:55
Originally Posted by Myrthos View Post
For me it would be the state of the game I played.
Yup,

I have played through a lot of plain vanilla games and loved them to death and then when it gets all fixed and patched up, folks fall in love like I did.

See: Gothic 3, Skyrim, Shadow Run.

I'm like one of the Property Brothers where I can walk in to a wreck and see the beauty that layeth before. It sucks that you guys don't have the vision that I have . . .
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February 15th, 2020, 22:17
Originally Posted by Dajjer View Post
I'm like one of the Property Brothers where I can walk in to a wreck and see the beauty that layeth before. It sucks that you guys don't have the vision that I have . . .
But then I would need (rose tinted?) glasses as well!

Didn't love Skyrim, but in no way because of bugs which I actually saw very few of. And I love Arcanum, that has to be worth something?
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February 15th, 2020, 22:18
Can I downvote Skyrim ?
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February 15th, 2020, 23:07
Originally Posted by GothicGothicness View Post
Can I downvote Skyrim ?
Sure, in a miniscule way. By voting for other games.
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