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August 23rd, 2018, 16:51
I got a craving to play around with spears lately. Mostly I choose to go for the standard sword, magic, bow, etc. build in my playthroughs, depending on how long ago I played them, whether it is fun to play, and if it fits with the character I'm thinking of.

Spear is something I almost never pick. Most of the RPGs that have spears seem to have them more as an afterthought and never as powerful as, e.g., a sword (let alone spear + shield).

So I was wondering, in which (RPG) games are spears a first-class citizen?

The first game that came to mind is demon souls, where a spear really works well in narrow passages and you can really exploit the longer range.
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August 23rd, 2018, 16:59
Hate to say it but the Dark Souls games fit the criteria.

Here are some more games.
  1. Exanima
  2. Mount and Blade Warband
  3. Morrowind
  4. Final Fantasy Tactics
  5. Diablo 2
  6. Neverwinter Nights EE
  7. Tyranny
  8. Disgaea Games
All have spears but your opinion may vary.
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August 23rd, 2018, 17:00
I use spear in all souls games, best weapons in the game!
The winged spear in particular (grade A for dex builds).

Baldur's Gate 2 has some good magic spears if you play a druid.

In Morrowind spears are a good choice to max out the endurance stat.

Temple of Elemental Evil has a good variety of weapon type, all viable.

There's maybe spears in Neverwinter Nights, I can't remember (EDIT: Couch remembers).
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August 23rd, 2018, 17:01
I didn't play Age of Decadence, but I remember it having spears. I could be wrong.
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August 23rd, 2018, 17:03
Lord of the Rings Online with the Warden class

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August 23rd, 2018, 17:44
Some good suggestions, I saw lotr online and AoD being suggested in some Reddit threads too. Don't forget monster Hunter

Must admit I'm looking for some modern games. Maybe I should give dark souls a try after all. I liked demon souls, but scrapped all successors of my list due to time restrictions.

The idea came to me after watching a death's Gambit video. Looks more fun to me than dead cells, despite the review scores.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3…Deaths_Gambit/
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August 23rd, 2018, 18:10
Not an rpg, but Blade of Darkness/Severance was ridiculous(ly) good at his, playing as Amazon( Zoe) using spear or naginata.
Haven't played a game in decade, but still remember some of the attack combos. ( Way of the Goddess doing this crazy AoE three spin, than follow up finisher). It had that odd balance of elegance and brutality.
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August 23rd, 2018, 18:53
Originally Posted by Ivanwah View Post
I didn't play Age of Decadence, but I remember it having spears. I could be wrong.
Yes it does and it's one of the most viable builds throughout the game as well as in dungeon rats the party based dungeon crawler spin-off

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August 23rd, 2018, 19:21
Games and spear, bleh, not a single one covered all possibilities to do with a spear. Darksouls, hahahahaha, gimme a break. We know who thought it's awsome game and what he did - brought that game to RL and of course failed:


Movies and spear however… Almost a masterpiece you need to watch before dying:
Musa - The Warrior
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August 23rd, 2018, 19:38
Expedition games might fit that build nicely. I know in the Vikings game one of my most superb fighters was built on a full strength/spear build, and he was downright lethal in combat.
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August 23rd, 2018, 20:28
If you use mods, there are some really good spear builds for Divinity Original Sin 2.
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August 23rd, 2018, 21:12
The reach of the long spear was a pretty nice feature in ToEE. It allowed a lightly armored character like a druid to participate in melee without becoming an HP sink.
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August 23rd, 2018, 21:16
I liked using spears in Morrowind. My favorite was an ebony spear that I enchanted with Drain Health. It pretty much broke the game though challenge-wise.

It's a shame spears were removed, along with so many other things, in Bethesda's constant effort to further streamline their games.
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August 23rd, 2018, 21:22
Originally Posted by JDR13 View Post
I liked using spears in Morrowind. My favorite was an ebony spear that I enchanted with Drain Health. It pretty much broke the game though challenge-wise.

It's a shame spears were removed, along with so many other things, in Bethesda's constant effort to further streamline their games.
Bethesda streamlined a lot of things with Oblivion, but I think spears were just not popular enough amongst players for them to waste precious ressources on it. Same with throwing knifes and shurikens.
In any case, yeah, it's a shame…
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August 23rd, 2018, 21:33
Yeah, I normally avoid spear skills, as they tend to be neglected in the loot, for some reason. I seem to remember something I played had some good halberds and stuff, and made me consider a spear build afterwards. Might have been BG2.
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August 23rd, 2018, 22:41
Originally Posted by Carnifex View Post
Expedition games might fit that build nicely. I know in the Vikings game one of my most superb fighters was built on a full strength/spear build, and he was downright lethal in combat.
Strength? Interesting, most of the time spears are put into the agility/finesse category, which makes kind of sense. It is a safer option dealing less damage. Not sure if anybody mentioned the banner saga yet or salt and sanctuary. The latter is a bit obvious just like Nioh, these seem the go to games for spears.

Of course, with spears I also meant halberds, pikes, tridents, (staffs), etc. Anything that could give me a more interesting challenge than plain swords, although as mentioned they are usually less viable. Strange enough, as it seems spears are like the most common weapon in medieval times.

Could be that the western RPG is almost defined by the early DnD editions which preferred swords according . While this should be corrected in current editions this has not yet trickled through to the gaming scene. Picked this up from a reddit thread (which I can't find anymore) and while I don't know DnD very well it does make kind of sense. The gaming scene is always slow to evolve imo, always sticking to the tried and tested forumulae.
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August 24th, 2018, 00:27
Not an rpg but total war games you live or die by the spear when the cavalry charges !
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The problem with a lot of rpg (not all); the spear is not that great compare to alternative. Actually there was a game where with spear you could attack from second rank (swords and similar you had to be front line) but i can't for the life of me remember the name of it.
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August 24th, 2018, 08:29
It's funny how spears were "streamlined away" in Bethsoft games.

I guess that means trivial matters like dual-wielding, light/sound-based stealth, physics-based archery, superior melee combat, mounts, distant terrain, dynamic ai, mounted combat, fully voiced NPCs, crafting, companions, and on and on - were all "streamlined" into their future games, right?

Oh, but those spears really tied the room together

Nah, it's true. I like options and wouldn't mind spears. Not that I'd ever use them, as I don't like the aesthetics of spear-based combat.

In fact, it's the reason I don't enjoy the Warden in LOTRO - even though I like the mechanics.

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August 24th, 2018, 08:44
Shocking. Who'd have thought you'd feel the need to rush to Bethesda's defense?
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August 24th, 2018, 08:50
Even more shocking that you felt the need to point it out, immediately, instead of correcting any potential error in the argument

But it's cool. Morrowind is the holy grail and the rest have all been "streamlined" into something less.

I get it

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