Do You Participate in Early Access? - RPGWatch Forums
|
Your donations keep RPGWatch running!
RPGWatch Forums » Comments » Polls & Comments » Do You Participate in Early Access?

View Poll Results - Do you participate in Early Access?

Yes, I like paving the way for others 3 4.55%
Sometimes, depending on the situation 14 21.21%
Rarely, only for games I back or just can't wait for 27 40.91%
Never, this is an industry travesty and I refuse to pay to test their game 22 33.33%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

Default Do You Participate in Early Access?

May 1st, 2021, 16:56
Here is another poll from Luethar, asking if you participate in Early Access (not closed beta) releases?
--
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams
There are no facts, only interpretations. Nietzsche
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. Oscar Wilde
Myrthos is offline

Myrthos

Myrthos's Avatar
Cave Canem
Administrator
RPGWatch Team

#1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 10,210
Mentioned: 153 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 17:23
Sometimes.

Until last year, my general stance was to wait until long after release, to avoid hosting nasty antivirus software, and to make sure most bugs were fixed.

Recently I was less into AAA titles, which I find more and more disappointing, and more easily lured by indies' EA or equivalent: Solasta, Encased, WotR, Colony Ship, and BG3 (arguably more AAA than indie). It's fun to participate to, and usually the community is more interesting - it was the case of most of them except BG3 (too crowded) and Colony Ship (Steam, enough said).
Redglyph is offline

Redglyph

Redglyph's Avatar
SasqWatch

#2

Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Good old Europe
Posts: 1,608
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 17:42
I say "rarely".

I did it for Grim Dawn since I had heard that the makers of Titan Quest were involved and that was enough motivation for me to give it a try. It was a good decision since already the early access version alone was worth the money for me and I still play it today (in fact I am in another play through just now).

Since then I never had a reason to seriously think about early access for other games, because there were always enough complete games to play.

For example I would do it for Baldurs Gate 3 but have too much else to play right now.
bkrueger is offline

bkrueger

Nothing to see here.

#3

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,136
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 17:59
In the eighties and nineties, I did it all the time. Any chance that came my way, I took it. The best experiences I had was doing Darklands, and a few years later, Everquest. Now I no longer seem to enjoy it, so I don't do it. I found it detracted from my enjoyment when the full game actually came out. The one exception to that at the moment is Pantheon. Would I consider doing early access for a particular game these days? Maybe, but for now I'm just doing the one and that seems enough for me.

To make it clear I consider early access to be equal to testing. For me it's a clear distinction, either a game is done and complete, or it is not. There is no grey. In the end I picked rarely, as that seems to cover both my past and present rather well, as far as this situation goes.
Carnifex is offline

Carnifex

SasqWatch

#4

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Holly Hill, FL.
Posts: 12,810
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 18:00
Yep, quite a bit. There are thousands of early access titles that are already fun but will probably never reach full release. 7 Days to Die, The Long Dark, SCUM, etc. I wait till I start seeing several reviews where someone has played for dozens of hours and has detailed comments. This is a good sign that the game has enough content to be worth the money. Hours of content is my primary criteria. I'm not going to pay for a 4 hour game ever.
--
c-computer, r-role, p-playing, g-game, nut-extreme fan
=crpgnut or just
'nut @crpgnut
aka survivalnut
crpgnut is offline

crpgnut

crpgnut's Avatar
Survival Game Nut
RPGWatch Donor
Original Sin Donor

#5

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St. Louis, Mo USA
Posts: 8,536
Mentioned: 60 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 19:28
I usually don't but there are some exceptions. Usually I would buy a game to help the devs and try it out once or twice, but not for very long.

Games like pathfinder wrath of the righteous is one.

On the more extreme end, I really liked age of decadence so I got the Colony Ship RPG and played it a lot.

Other than that I don't usually play early access.
Pladio is offline

Pladio

Pladio's Avatar
Guardian of Nonsense
Original Sin Donor

#6

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
Posts: 7,160
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 20:12
I went with rarely as I have found that I burn out on a game and it is years if ever before I get back to play it. The few games that I buy in early access are mostly to support the developers, like in the case of Solasta. Though I did spend a bit of time with the character creator and I am looking forward to it's release.
Terry is offline

Terry

Terry's Avatar
Sentinel

#7

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Vegreville, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 428
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 21:13
Another caveat: I also see sponsoring via kick starter, or whatever other means, as a viable alternative to actually participating in early access/betas. I don't do this very much anymore, at least not for video games, yet for a solid decade I was pretty nonchalant about kicking in on many projects. Others also might consider this a way of contributing to an idea/project that they hope will turn out something wonderful. Of course this also can be a direct channel into the entire early access phenomenon.
Carnifex is offline

Carnifex

SasqWatch

#8

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Holly Hill, FL.
Posts: 12,810
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 22:20
Nope. Never, I only play games when fully released.
--
To check out my games library, and see what recent games I'm playing, visit my steam profile! -- http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197982351404
Arkadia7 is offline

Arkadia7

Arkadia7's Avatar
SasqWatch
Original Sin 2 Donor

#9

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pacific NorthWest, USA!
Posts: 1,771
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 22:43
Yes. If it's a continous narrative game, that has backfired for me at times (Torment: ToN, Sunless Skies, etc), but for others it's been great (Griftlands, Slay the Spire, Hades, Caves of Qud, etc). If there's an element of randomness to it and not one long story, it works a lot better for me.

Btw, I wonder if more people would vote yes if it didn't say "I like to pave the way for others." I couldn't care less about paving the way for others.
JFarrell71 is online now

JFarrell71

SasqWatch

#10

Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,025
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 23:08
I've voted for never but I don't entirely hold with it being an industry travesty. I know some people enjoy participating in early access. I suppose I benefit from their participation when I buy a completed game.
Qayto is offline

Qayto

Watchdog

#11

Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Midlands UK
Posts: 103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)

Default 

May 1st, 2021, 23:15
The word 'participate' is ambiguous … I will *buy* Early Access games to support developers … but I don't play them.
--
-- Mike
txa1265 is offline

txa1265

txa1265's Avatar
SasqWatch
Moderator

#12

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Corning, NY USA
Posts: 14,773
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 00:08
Yeah, for anything like an RPG, I don't want to play it until it's truly finished, and they've stopped messing around with it. I occasionally buy just to support a project, if they look like they've got their act together.

I will play early access for games that are more about giving a short blast of gameplay when you're in the mood, and they add stuff over time. Things like Door Kickers 2, which suit me nicely for a quick tactical scrap.
--
"I cannot define the real problem, therefore I suspect there's no real problem, but I'm not sure there's no real problem."
Richard Feynman
Ripper is offline

Ripper

Ripper's Avatar
Ngikufisela iwela
Super Moderator

#13

Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 10,445
Mentioned: 98 Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 00:36
Originally Posted by txa1265 View Post
The word 'participate' is ambiguous … I will *buy* Early Access games to support developers … but I don't play them.
That's exactly my case. I just don't know what to answer in the poll.
--
Sou tricolor de corao!

Sie sind das Essen und Wir sind die Jger!
henriquejr is offline

henriquejr

henriquejr's Avatar
SasqWatch
RPGWatch Donor
Original Sin 2 Donor

#14

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Brasil
Posts: 2,896
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 01:21
I'll only occasionally buy an early access game. Usually with RPGs I'm only interested in playing once they're "finished". I'm not interested in replaying the game over and over just to see what has been added.
Most early access games I play are the more sandboxy type, where it doesn't matter (i.e. it's usually only a plus) if extra content is added as you play it.
--
Proud leader of the Shit Games Liberation Front
All your shit games are belong to us

FIRST KNIGHT OF THE ORDER OF THE BLOB
Shagnak is offline

Shagnak

Shagnak's Avatar
SGLF Founder

#15

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 1,238
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 04:20
Hmm..used to lean towards rarely only for games I back or just can't wait, but in recent years I lean towards it's an industry travesty, and I refuse to pay to test their game.

It was a good model when it was introduced now it's just another overused gimmick.
--
"Facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams
Couchpotato is offline

Couchpotato

Couchpotato's Avatar
Laziest Man Alive

#16

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Banana Republic of America
Posts: 26,390
Mentioned: 116 Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 04:49
I'll kick in for early access for reliable developers and if I see enough of an interest from the community at large, then I'm more confident of it being completed. I don't play early access RPGs unless they are highly anticipated (bg3) but will play base building/survival sim games in early access because they prove quite fun even in early access.
Silver is offline

Silver

Silver's Avatar
Spaceman
RPGWatch Team

#17

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 8,694
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
+1:

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 06:35
Depends on the genre; I never will for an RPG with a heavy storyline (such as Solasta or Pathfinder), but don't necessarily harbor the same resistance for titles such as Factorio and Slay the Spire that don't rely on a narrative as much.
Drithius is offline

Drithius

Drithius's Avatar
Laughing Gnome

#18

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 5,280
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 12:02
I only play final releases. Not even if the game was free I would playtest a game in Early Access, especially if it is a game I intend to enjoy when released. I hate spoilers, and Early Access is nothing but a muddy ball of unpolished spoilers.

Only if I was paid a decent rate I would consider playtesting, and only games that I don't intend to play at release.

Nereida

Guest

#19

Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)

Default 

May 2nd, 2021, 12:24
Just for the record. There is no intention to make the polls scientifically correct and cover all possible options. Even if they are ambiguous, you can still select a yes or a no and explain what you mean with it. They are supposed to be fun and give you something to talk about.
So don't worry, we are not going to use this in any scientific way
--
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams
There are no facts, only interpretations. Nietzsche
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. Oscar Wilde
Myrthos is offline

Myrthos

Myrthos's Avatar
Cave Canem
Administrator
RPGWatch Team

#20

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 10,210
Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
RPGWatch Forums » Comments » Polls & Comments » Do You Participate in Early Access?
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:03.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by DragonByte Security (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright by RPGWatch