Upgrading CPU to Ryzen 2700x

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Hey, just curious if it will plug into the same slot seamlessly as my i5 4690 cpu currently occupies? Do I have to get a new motherboard or will it just pop right in?
 
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Well one is an Intel and the other is an AMD chip. So short answer is no as both chips require different motherboards. It's a pain in the behind but it's always been that way.

Link - https://www.pcworld.com/article/317...crucial-differences-in-every-am4-chipset.html

You'll need an AM4 board for that Ryzen 2700x.

Link - https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007625%20601292786

Thanks Couch! So I'll just go with the old trusty Intel then. What's the best Intel CPU for gaming right now?
 
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TheRealFluent said:
So I'll just go with the old trusty Intel then. What's the best Intel CPU for gaming right now?

Even with Intel, you'll need a new motherboard, so if you want to go to Ryzen you might as well.

Your current CPU is socket 1150 (same as what my 4570 uses), but anything of a newer generation will be using 1151.
Also, any newer mobo that is compatible with recent processors will probably be using DDR4 rather than DDR3 (and I know you'll be using DDR3 at the mo, because 1150 processors weren't compatible with DDR4 - unless some solution has been found that I'm not aware of).

So… expect to spend some decent coin.
 
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So can someone explain how I go about doing this? I have an SSD, a few hard drives and a 1080ti I would like to save from my current PC. It's in a small case so I'd probably need a larger one. What all would I need to get to accomplish an upgrade to an i9 intel + DDR4 RAM?
 
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Just a new mobo/CPU/DDR4. That's it.
Your current PSU should be fine. ATX standard hasn't changed much since then, and I don't think there'll be a large power draw difference. Ensure the new mobo has enough SATA connections for all your hard drives. (Hopefully none of your HDs are IDE?)
 
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Will the motherboard fit in my current computer case? And just make sure to get a very high end motherboard, i9 9900 cpu and 16 gb 3000mhz RAM?
 
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Will this -https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MEG-Z390-ACE-Motherboard/dp/B07HM3M86B/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543783648&sr=1-1&keywords=meg+z390+ace

Fit into this case - Thermaltake V3 Black Edition Mid Tower Case
 
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This is my current build

Computer Case : Thermaltake V3 Black Edition Mid Tower Case
Power Supply Upgrade : 550W Heavy Duty TOUGH Series SATA Power Supply
Motherboard : Asus H81M Series Intel H81/ DDR3/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&GbE/ MicroATX
DDR3 Memory : 16GB (2X8GB) DDR3-1333/1600 PC3-10666/12800
Processor : Intel Core i5 4670 3.4GHz Quad Core 6MB
CPU Cooling Fan : Cooler Master Hyper T2 CPU Fan For Intel & AMD Processors
SSD : Kingston SSD 240 GB SATA3 Solid State Drive
Sound Card : 8-Channel Digital Sound Card (onboard)
Network Card : 10/100/1000 Gigabit Network Card (onboard)

plus several 2 TB hard drives, a 1080ti GPU and an Emu 1212m soundcard.
 
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Will this -https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MEG-Z390-ACE-Motherboard/dp/B07HM3M86B/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543783648&sr=1-1&keywords=meg+z390+ace

Fit into this case - Thermaltake V3 Black Edition Mid Tower Case

That case (according to the Thermatake page) will fit Micro ATX or Standard ATX, and that mobo looks to be full ATX, so I'd say "yes".
You appear to have lotsa money, so if it doesn't, buy a bigger case :D
 
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Ok, so how would this build look?

Intel 8th / 9th Gen. Ultimate Custom Gaming PC System
Computer Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Case Fan: 120mm Ball Bearing Case Fan
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390 GAMING LGA1151/ Intel Z390/ DDR4/ Quad-GPU CrossFireX & Quad-GPU SLI/ SATA3&USB3.1/ M.2/ A&GbE/ ATX
Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake Processor 3.6GHz 8.0GT/s 16MB LGA 1151 CPU
CPU Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H50-60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Memory: 16GB Hyper-X DDR4-2800/3000
M.2 SSD: 250GB WD M.2 2280 Internal SSD Solid State Drive
Video card: Integrated HD Video Card DVI, SVGA, HDMI, 2x Monitor Support (onboard)
Sound Card: High Definition Audio with High Quality Audio Capacitors (onboard)
Network Card: 100/1000 Gigabit Network Card (onboard)
Warranty: Assembled and tested, 3 years parts and 3 Year labor warranty

of course I'd pop in my 1080ti, another SSD and a few regular HDDs, and my Emu 1212m soundcard.
 
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If you go here:
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

You can get an estimate of what PSU Wattage to aim for. Disclaimer: I can't vouch for its accuracy, and there are other calculators out there.

I plugged in you stuff (approx) plus new stuff, and it recommended about 551W, which is about what you currently have.

Edit: sorry, posted this before seeing your most recent.
Looks nice, I'd have it. :p
I'm sure that when it gets down to the nitty gritty (brands, etc) there are others that will have an opinion. I'm very much on a budget :p
 
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Well thanks bro, I am going to pick up that new one and pop in my premium parts and call it a day. Thanks for the help!!! :)
 
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And will the 1080ti be sufficient for VR gaming with mods? Skyrim VR with mods, for example.
 
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Unless you're rendering videos all day long with handbrake, I see absolutely no reason to trash that CPU.

Currently best CPUs for gaming:
https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-cpus,review-33354.html
And will the 1080ti be sufficient for VR gaming with mods? Skyrim VR with mods, for example.
I don't think we have anyone on board who bought both VR helmet and 1080ti. Means, probably noone can answer that. Maybe someone on Bethesda's forums can?
 
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Well you can buy the CPU from me if you want joxer. Otherwise I'm just going to give my old PC away to my stepdad. I do render videos and also do a lot of audio/video editing and it takes a long time on 1 hour+ videos so the new CPU will help with that.
 
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No thankyou I have i5 4670K and will switch it only if it farts.

Since I'm the one mentioned rendering - handbrake on my side does 1080p with encoder preset slow, RF 22 and 2x passthrough into x264 cca a minute of rendering per minute of a video. Means if I recorded a TW3 playthrough that lasts 1 hour, I'll need an additional hour to "convert" it to x264.
Note that rendering into 720p where the original video is 720p or is being downscaled from 1080p lasts cca 50% less time.
30 FPS (max) of course. Videos to watch passively do not need higher rate than 30, it's not a game nor gaming.

As I don't do it daily, only when I need to shrink overbloated vids (raw data or very small compression in original file), I'm quite happy with it.
If you'll do that 24/7 however, you should invest in as more CPU cores as possible and as much RAM as you can. More on the matter (hevc is x265 but I'm used to x264 although handbrake can render to x265 format):
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/390357-Best-CPUs-For-Encoding-In-HEVC-10-bit

You might think of letting GPU to do the rendering instead of CPU, but there is no point, at least wasn't in the past - and I don't use openCL scaling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/49trfw/gpuaccelerated_video_transcoding/
https://github.com/HandBrake/HandBrake/issues/886
 
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