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January 7th, 2020, 20:20
I wish games would go for more personal angles. I'm also sick and tired of political alliances in games like these. There's too much world building and heavy lifting they have to do to make me care. They have to introduce and explain all these backstories and history, and inter relationships and it's all just made up for this one game. I end up simply not caring. Or in this case, go against the Religious Zealots because I dislike religion in general in the real world. But that's a shallow attachment and I don't feel connected to the story then.

More personal quests and simplified storylines, please. And less running back and forth. Does anyone play test these games as complete playthroughs? Or do they just test individual quests at a time?

It so obvious that the different parts of this game were made by separate teams, then linked together by long sections of running back and forth. And back and forth.
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January 8th, 2020, 00:31
I am pretty much the opposite. I love it when a game has a lot of rich lore to learn and uncover. One of the reason this game was a GOTY contender for me is how much fun I had unraveling the politics, lore, and how it all intertwined with the life of the characters involved. It was all new and fascinating to me. Same for their mars game.

One thing that kept me going through all the Dragon Age stories is the lore and history of the world they created. Likewise for Outer Worlds, ELEX, Pillars, Torment … pretty much all games I love world building and getting into the lore.

I would find a game terribly dull if it only focused on people talking about their personal issues.
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I mean personal issues are the focus in a political world full of lore, versus "I have to solve all these problems for various political/ideological factions". Lore and world building still need to be a part of all this.

It just seems hollow that the PC is so often personally in charge of fixing big political conflicts, sometimes multiple times in the same game. It leads to crap where one character becomes the Leader of the Archmages, the Head of the Thieves Guild, the General of the Guards and the High Priest of a religious cult in the same play through.
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January 9th, 2020, 19:58
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…It leads to crap where one character becomes the Leader of the Archmages, the Head of the Thieves Guild, the General of the Guards and the High Priest of a religious cult in the same play through.
That I can totally agree on. Not a fan of one character doing it all and being in charge of all things. I think someone could be in more than one faction but certainly not all.

I didn't really feel that in GF though, maybe because De Sardet is a diplomat and part of his job was keeping everyone working together.
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are there games where women are even uglier than in this game? haha

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February 15th, 2020, 03:31
I found this game very enjoyable recently. The exploration was unfortunately kind of lacking because there wasn't much to find, and it screamed for a more in-depth faction system than it god. However the combat, setting and story were very good, which kept me playing happily to the end. Shooting a rifle to take out armor and then rushing in with a saber never got old.

Combine this combat and atmosphere with Piranha Bytes' factions and exploration and you'd have a killer RPG on your hands.
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Heh im playing it now, so far 25h in and the setting and story are quite boring for me, but the quests and exploration are very nice. Went warrior style and at first it was pretty crap but now im level 22 i think and it became easy with stasis and healing at max.

I see they hired witcher 3 voice actors, they do a fine job but there are are few npcs faces overall, not to mention women faces are just terrible, kills the atmosphere. Also a good thing, no need to load when entering buildings haha.

Overall enjoyable but i liked technomancer more.
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Heh im playing it now, so far 25h in and the setting and story are quite boring for me, but the quests and exploration are very nice.
The story isn't the most interesting thing ever but I do like the setting a lot. The colonial setting in Risen 2 and 3 also made those games more interesting than they otherwise would have been for me. Maybe I just have an interest in that era.
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February 19th, 2020, 16:40
These low budget games should not try to go photo-realistic. It just never works. Even the big, expensive games from large studios can't pull off photo realism 100% of the time.

Greedfall is a huge disappointment. Too much running back and forth. It's crazy… did anyone play test this? Did the testers ENJOY this much back and forth crap?
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