Mass Effect 3 Will Require Origin

I totally agree, and I feel sorry for anyone that had legal stuff on those sites, but here endeth the lesson: If you consort with evil, you'll go down with evil. Research stuff, make sure you're not in bed with crazy illegals, and your stuff will remain safe. The onus of anything legal that YOU own is ultimately on YOUR shoulders. How should piracy be eliminated?? By any means required.


-Carn

@txa1265

Dont bother some people will wake up one day and realize what SOPA/PIPA and other laws are basically for corporations and not us.

Its a sad fact we have been losing more liberty's since 9/11 and the government passing of the patriot act. People behind the scenes push the new bills and always tell us it's for are own good.

The US government is messed up and disorganized and we have more serious problems than piracy to fix. I dont feel sorry for Megaupload since they made money off illegal file sharing no matter what we all like to call it.

I dont support are hate piracy like some on this site. Im guilty of it sometimes and wont condem or crucify anyone who does.

Yup. This "little guy" is something else. In addition to the candy bar, they seized guns, artwork and $8 Million in cash from the office, plus this little gem - a Rolls Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe work $400K. Oh the humanity! LOL

ToddMcF2002 said:

Yup. This "little guy" is something else. In addition to the candy bar, they seized guns, artwork and $8 Million in cash from the office, plus this little gem - a Rolls Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe work $400K. Oh the humanity! LOL

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Well I don't feel sorry for them. I just feel people are idiots worldwide. Especially politicians. Cant trust them.:lol:

ToddMcF2002 said:

Yup. This "little guy" is something else. In addition to the candy bar, they seized guns, artwork and $8 Million in cash from the office, plus this little gem - a Rolls Royce Phantom Drophead Coupe work $400K. Oh the humanity! LOL

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You are totally missing the point - WE ALL AGREE that those guys were benefitting from illegal activity and deserved to be shut down.

You have conveniently ignored multiple times questions about how kids (literally) are getting charged huge crimes, grandmothers facing felonies and multi-million dollar fines, how politicians who seek only to block activity of ANY sort to score points suddenly find instant agreement in the face of millions of dollars of kickbacks, how armed police raids raids have been conducted on non-server personal homes, and on and on.

We agree on this one example in general, but the overall and repeated corporate access to militarized action by the government is extremely troubling ... to the point where it has a strong anti-piracy zealot (me) questioning everything.

The end does NOT justify the means ... it just doesn't.

The expression 'throwing the baby out with the bath water' summarizes the heavy-handed approach taken by the authorities (re SOPA/PIPA etc). Of course, they will latch on to the most obvious expample(s) of excess and use that to justify *any* draconian laws they want to pass, since "clearly" it's the only fair and sensible way to proceed. The irony is that business, imho, is by its very nature exploitative and (often) unethical. Corporates (and their political accomplices) are willing to engage in dubious practices, profiteering etc, as long as they can get away with it (called 'good business', apparently). I stopped believing corporate bullsh*t when I stopped believing in Santa (yes, it's true…he doesn'r exist!) Let's hope people do not regret blindly assenting to every new piece of freedom-stomping legislation that politicians propose.

This is an inevitable result in a world where corporations hold the real power.

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What about any legal hosted files - and apparently there were PLENTY.

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This is what worries me as well.

Let's take for example the imagination of Indies *only* using Filesharing servers for the distribution of thir games. Just imagine. I know this is a bad example, but just try to imagine it.

Closing them (the filesharing servers) would effectively eradicate any form of distribution for them. They woul have to look out for deals with *real* publishers.
So who would profit from this anti - copyright-violation act of closing filesharers in this example : The publishers. And the big companies who don't want ny competition by Indies.

I still know that this is a bad example, but I couldn't make up any better rioght no to express what I mean : What I'm concerned about is how privately created files - like those really cute photos friends of mine take from their cats and show them around in another forum I'm in - are simply deleted as well. This is another form of copyright violation, similar to the "Copyleft" thing we know from Linux et. al :
Copyright oriented companies let privately owned copyrighted material become deleted because it simply is among pirated material !

How dare they ? How dare they let files be deleted of which they do NOT have any copy right upon ! They simply didn't bother to ask any individual who us using the filesharers to distribute their cat pictures ! They just deleted them no matter what !

And this behaviour shows where their priority is : In protecting the copyright holding companies, and NOT in protecting PRIVATE copyright holders !


How are my friends supposed to show everyone their cat photos if everything is shut down ? Okay, they could use forums, but not all forums support that. And web space … There is still a huge number of people who just don't bother thinking of buying web space. they just don't want any hassle and not at all having to hink about server securit.

txa1265 said:

You are totally missing the point - WE ALL AGREE that those guys were benefitting from illegal activity and deserved to be shut down.

You have conveniently ignored multiple times questions about how kids (literally) are getting charged huge crimes, grandmothers facing felonies and multi-million dollar fines, how politicians who seek only to block activity of ANY sort to score points suddenly find instant agreement in the face of millions of dollars of kickbacks, how armed police raids raids have been conducted on non-server personal homes, and on and on.

We agree on this one example in general, but the overall and repeated corporate access to militarized action by the government is extremely troubling … to the point where it has a strong anti-piracy zealot (me) questioning everything.

The end does NOT justify the means … it just doesn't.

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I agree with you. Completely.

Couchpotato said:

@txa1265

Dont bother some people will wake up one day and realize what SOPA/PIPA and other laws are basically for corporations and not us.

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Done by politicians who are either IN these corporations are have "good friends" who are ...

Personally I doubt any of the politicians who are pushing these regulations have ever used a pc for anything more then to look at email and porn.

Btw, this is why I do not take Origin seriously. I reported this issue half a year ago.

What does "berömmelse" mean ?

Because we have a slang word here which is a verb "beömmeln" and means something like to chuckle or have a light laughter over something.

Alrik Fassbauer said:

What does "berömmelse" mean ?

Because we have a slang word here which is a verb "beömmeln" and means something like to chuckle or have a light laughter over something.

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Ah, okay, thanks.

Things are not looking good for ME3. Not good at all.
The better you do in multiplayer, the better ending you can get in single player.

Fnord said:

Things are not looking good for ME3. Not good at all.
The better you do in multiplayer, the better ending you can get in single player.

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I'm praying that he simply worded it incorrectly. If not, this is the final nail in the coffin for Bioware as a respectable game developer.


*Edit* Ok I just watched the full interview, and it seems the single-multi player connection is entirely optional. You can still get the best ending from playing just single-player.

The author of that newsbit is being very disingenuous in only showing partial quotes from the interview. He's trying to make it sound as if we'll be forced to participate in multi-player to get the best ending. That clearly isn't the truth.

JDR13 said:

I'm praying that he simply worded it incorrectly. If not, this is the final nail in the coffin for Bioware as a respectable game developer.


*Edit* Ok I just watched the full interview, and it seems the single-multi player connection is entirely optional. You can still get the best ending from playing just single-player.

The author of that newsbit is being very disingenuous in only showing partial quotes from the interview. He's trying to make it sound as if we'll be forced to participate in multi-player to get the best ending. That clearly isn't the truth.

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I agree when it was first announced I thought you had to play mp just to finish also. I still think its a useless addon added to sell more useless item and weapon dlcs. Time will tell as there already doing it.

Well, I must say that I'm not *that* surprised.
Having the best of a game only in MP is not a new thing. See the MP mode of DS1 (my favourite example), and one game of which I don't correctly remember anymore its name which has content only for Multiplayer, was it Jedi Academy ? Plus games having MP-only content, like Two Worlds,Republic Commando and so on. SP mode more and more dies out, and it often appears as an afterthought right now.
I guess they all use MP mode as "implicite DRM" nowadays.

SP mode is to PC games what PC games are to console/multiplatform games.

There is nothing to indicate that the best of ME3 is only in multiplayer.

With these words, you re right.

But - do you see it ? If the wording is right (condensed by me) "the better you do, the better the singleplayer ending will be", then you really can't say that "the best is in multiplayer". It really isn't true.

It is kind of … vice versa. Well, not entirely.

The best of the ME3 ending will be defined by the Multiplayer part - if I interpret this correctly.

This really doesn't mean that "the best" is in Multiplayer. The wording just doesn't apply to it.

This is a very good way to wriggle around something, to use words, a ccertain formulation of words to NOT say something.

It's like … as if I was saying … A shootist is killing people and someone else says :
"It wasn't my fault !"
And the person is right. It wasn't his or her fault that the shootist killed people.

That's anoher way of wriggling around with words.
To NOT say something.

And politicians and markting people do that all of the time !

Couchpotato said:

I agree when it was first announced I thought you had to play mp just to finish also. I still think its a useless addon added to sell more useless item and weapon dlcs. Time will tell as there already doing it.

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Badly explained (useless) feature. It's like they want to force people to play the multiplayer game. :/ Probably trying to get better "stats" for it to "rationalize" their investment in that features...