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January 19th, 2022, 12:50
I loathe corporates and the way they run business and I dont believe any corporate buyout can lead to improvement on field of innovation and creativity. If such things happen in corporate structure, its only exception that proves the rule.
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January 19th, 2022, 15:16
Originally Posted by Andrew23It's quite the opposite, imho, because corporations always buy out the new ideas (read : small companies) and put their inventions intoi the drawer, to protect the corporations' busioness in a most conservative ( literally ! ) way.
I loathe corporates and the way they run business and I dont believe any corporate buyout can lead to improvement on field of innovation and creativity. If such things happen in corporate structure, its only exception that proves the rule.
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January 19th, 2022, 18:39
Originally Posted by SveNitoRIt's not easy changing a companies working attitude or conditions. Not saying it's not impossible but most of the time it's just PR nonsense and lip-service to the public.
If he laughs all the way to the bank and the company gets better as well, that's win-win![]()
As for me I just want more SP games without battle.net from Blizzard.
Edit: Oh yeah and a remake or sequel of Arcanum as it's an IP of Activision Blizzard. Just make sure Obsidian or inXile get the job. Probably won't happen though.

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January 19th, 2022, 18:56
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoI'd laugh if it got hyped and big-budgeted and then released really buggy and clunky. Would make for entertaining reading for sure.
Edit: Oh yeah and a remake or sequel of Arcanum as it's an IP of Activision Blizzard. Just make sure Obsidian or inXile get the job. Probably won't happen though.![]()
January 19th, 2022, 18:56
Indeed, being able to play some of the classic games without that ugly battle net would be a huge boon for consumers. I'm also forced to agree with Andrew23, these types of acquisitions rarely if ever work out to the benefit of the poor consumers, so we'll have to watch and see how this all shakes out.

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January 20th, 2022, 00:34
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoI might sound crazy for saying this but I want to see SP RPG with WoW graphics
As for me I just want more SP games without battle.net from Blizzard.
Edit: Oh yeah and a remake or sequel of Arcanum as it's an IP of Activision Blizzard. Just make sure Obsidian or inXile get the job. Probably won't happen though.![]()

Hey, I didn't know Blizzard owned Arcanum IP.
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January 20th, 2022, 03:34
Originally Posted by purpleblob1Activision owns the Arcanum IP and they merged with Blizzard years back and now Microsoft. It would be a nice IP to resurrect given Microsoft's interest in RPG's.
I might sound crazy for saying this but I want to see SP RPG with WoW graphics
Hey, I didn't know Blizzard owned Arcanum IP.
Originally Posted by lackbloggerI have no doubt it wouldn't be a buggy mess, but that's just normal nowadays. Look at the latest Pathfinder CRPGs they are the buggiest RPGs made and this forum loves them.
I'd laugh if it got hyped and big-budgeted and then released really buggy and clunky. Would make for entertaining reading for sure.
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January 20th, 2022, 04:47
Originally Posted by CouchpotatoTim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky would no doubt be interested. I can imagine Obsidian working on that in future.
Activision owns the Arcanum IP and they merged with Blizzard years back and now Microsoft. It would be a nice IP to resurrect given Microsoft's interest in RPG's.
I have no doubt it wouldn't be a buggy mess, but that's just normal nowadays. Look at the latest Pathfinder CRPGs they are the buggiest RPGs made and this forum loves them.
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January 20th, 2022, 05:02
Originally Posted by SilverWhats weird is inXile is rumored to have a steampunk RPG in development. Maybe it's a spiritual sequel to Arcanum as Microsoft knew the deal would go through eventually.
Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky would no doubt be interested. I can imagine Obsidian working on that in future.
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January 20th, 2022, 23:55
Xbox CEO Phil Spencer talking about reviving old Activision games.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video…-phil-spencer/
He actually mentions King's Quest and Hexen among others, but I'm not sure how serious he is. I don't see Microsoft greenlighting what would probably amount to being niche games at this point.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video…-phil-spencer/
He actually mentions King's Quest and Hexen among others, but I'm not sure how serious he is. I don't see Microsoft greenlighting what would probably amount to being niche games at this point.
January 21st, 2022, 01:14
Those are two great franchises to at least mention, for sure. They might be considered niche yet I suspect plenty would pony up a few bucks to play both these days, new releases I mean.

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January 21st, 2022, 02:46
Originally Posted by JDR13With gamepass those franchises don't have to be mega sellers which makes it much more likely we'll see something.
Xbox CEO Phil Spencer talking about reviving old Activision games.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video…-phil-spencer/
He actually mentions King's Quest and Hexen among others, but I'm not sure how serious he is. I don't see Microsoft greenlighting what would probably amount to being niche games at this point.
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January 21st, 2022, 03:15
Originally Posted by MAHakWhat am I missing here? Does Activision own the rights? I know Troika developed…
My exact thought.
I hope they don't give it the Awoved treatment though, not at least until they have published an isometric or two!
Now would be a good time to revive the franchise with BG3 and relative success of other throwback iso RPG's under their fold, such as PoE and the Wastelands.
Edit: NM, I see someone answered that above!

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January 21st, 2022, 13:22
Originally Posted by SilverAre you sure? I mean with GaaS of course they need to count sales, but still there still will be some evaluation which games make sense (in regards to revenue) to develop and which not.
With gamepass those franchises don't have to be mega sellers which makes it much more likely we'll see something.
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January 21st, 2022, 13:37
Originally Posted by MorrandirPhil Spencer has said in the past that niche titles are much more likely to have a future with gamepass. I'm not sure what IP is still relevant or interesting to modern audiences, although that sounds like corporate speak to me, but with the right developer I'm sure a good game could be made.
Are you sure? I mean with GaaS of course they need to count sales, but still there still will be some evaluation which games make sense (in regards to revenue) to develop and which not.
January 21st, 2022, 14:10
Originally Posted by SilverI gave this statement a few minutes of thought, but I couldn't come up with a justification.
Phil Spencer has said in the past that niche titles are much more likely to have a future with gamepass.
I mean yes, they can use gamepass to evaluate which types of niche games are played and which are not and then derive which niche games attract how many new custiomers to cover development cost.
But a big enough company can do this without gamepass (or similar) by just selling the product and looking at sales numbers.
Also they could find out that it doesn't make sense at all to develop niche games which would result in these games not having a future.
Oh well, perhaps I'm missing something.
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January 21st, 2022, 22:23
Originally Posted by MorrandirPhil is keen on having a variety of offerings so that gamepass has broad appeal. Thats the logic he cited.
I gave this statement a few minutes of thought, but I couldn't come up with a justification.
I mean yes, they can use gamepass to evaluate which types of niche games are played and which are not and then derive which niche games attract how many new custiomers to cover development cost.
But a big enough company can do this without gamepass (or similar) by just selling the product and looking at sales numbers.
Also they could find out that it doesn't make sense at all to develop niche games which would result in these games not having a future.
Oh well, perhaps I'm missing something.
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