Thank you.
I'm glad there's at least one other person here who gets that.
I hope you realise I don't think your opinion is unfair
To me, that wouldn't make sense. We like what we like - and whatever response to something, be it a movie or ice cream - is the response we have. That's neither unfair or "incorrect".
I'm simply saying the old movies were full of shit as well.
That said, obviously nostalgia is going to be a factor - and it's going to be more significant the stronger your emotional tie to whatever we're talking about is.
For me, I know the movies had a gigantic impact on me as a kid, so the tie is strong.
Anyone trying to claim their judgment is not affected by nostalgia ever - is either lying, incredibly naive or conceited - or not human.
That's why I'm saying I probably wouldn't have loved TLJ if it wasn't Star Wars - because it has a lot of things I generally hate about mainstream movies.
But I can't take the 9 years old kid out of my soul - and KNOW how I would respond as someone completely unaffected by my feelings for Star Wars, Luke, Leia, Jedis and so on. I can only guess about that.
But there's also a difference between a mainstream movie that's obviously not meant to be taken too seriously - and a movie that's trying to be very serious indeed.
For instance, Alien was never a typical mainstream movie. At least not to me - as a kid or as an adult. It was trying to be serious, and I think the script made that work rather well. Not a perfect movie, but a very good one indeed.
Any Alien movie that's going for the same thing should have a script that makes it work as well. That's where the new movies fail utterly, to me.
The script is important to me - and plausible human behavior matters a lot if I'm going to be taking something very seriously.
For Indiana Jones, I have to admit that the more I see of them as an adult, the more I realise they're silly as hell. I do think they have a certain charm in terms of the actors - and the creativity of the script. I thought Crystal Skulls lacked that to the same degree - but, again, I don't know how big a factor nostalgia is when it comes to Indiana Jones.
So, it's not as easy as that.
But, obviously - as we've established - you thought TLJ was much worse than the other Star Wars movies in these ways and that's not unfair. That was your experience.
To me, the jokes were over-the-top - but, as I said, the human drama and Jedi stuff was strong enough to make me able to ignore it.
That opinion isn't unfair or incorrect either.
To me, the notion of an honest opinion being unfair is silly. I don't understand how that would work. It could be uninformed, I suppose - but never unfair.
That would be like saying to someone that whatever he's feeling and thinking about something he experienced is "wrong" - and he better realise that he didn't actually experience what he thinks he did.
Too much like manipulation and mind control for my tastes
Nothing wrong with exchanging our experiences, though.
