I often rely on healing potions since anyone car drink them regardless of casting abilities, and they're abundant in loot. More often at the beginning of the game in the absence of a divine caster, as @purpleblob1; said. But also when the divine caster is too busy or has run out of spells.
That's right, wasting a turn is another downside. You can heal someone else though, but again you need to be close, so it's a poor replacement of a cleric.
I think it will be an interesting experience.
They fixed it, unfortunately, which is quite nasty. I had enough of this so I saved and spam loaded until I succeeded the check with not too many failures (only 2).A little something I observed after entering Citadel Drezen (underground), related to Whispers of Madness.
There is a way to stop the repeated CHA debuff, otherwise it becomes a real problem.
I suppose it's well-known: once you have seen "Yaniel" follow the corridor to the right (East), open the door and get in the room just in front (so, always East).
There are 3 tablets with skill checks to pass, in Religion, World and Arcana. Religion is the highest DC at 30, IIRC. Each time you fail, you get to defeat spawning enemies, who can damage your abilities. It's all fun.
(for the story) The first time I went TB mode so I could contain them more easily. Equipped band of WIS, drank owl potion, and I needed to roll a 16. I rolled an 11, fight, a 4, fight, a 2, fight, a 3, fight, a 1…, fight, an 11, fight. Then I gave up, realizing my religious character was down 3 or 4 ability points.
I reloaded and used RTwP. Band/potion again, then I rolled something too low and the usual 2-3 enemies spawned, but the hand symbol was still there and I could continue clicking it without any additional spawns on failure, while my fellows were taking care of the ghosts.
Sure enough, after half a dozen attempts, it succeeded. Same technique with the 2 others, which are easier anyway, I got them on the first attempt.
=> Don't try TB mode, the hand symbol disappears each time. Use RTwP and keep someone near the tablet to keep trying while the combat is ongoing.
=> Don't neglect religion in Wrath of the Righteous, it's a recurring theme.
The first time I played that's what I did, I hadn't taken the time to explore everything and didn't find this room. It was much simpler by then, now there are at least two pretty hard fights.Why spam load when you could spend 3 seconds and set the game to story mode, then the checks lower a lot (verified that after our last discussion), then change back. Seems a lot simpler and less frustrating them spam loading
I mean when you spam load you are not really playing on difficult at that point
The other option is live it and try to cope with restoration spells and get the area done. That is possible as I did that once.
My general rule of thumb is I will reload a second time if I really want to pass something and if it didn't pass then it wasn't meant to be … the exception only being for something so critical to the story or that I want … then I switch to story mode to do it.
The first time I played that's what I did, I hadn't taken the time to explore everything and didn't find this room. It was much simpler by then, now there are at least two pretty hard fights.
Actually, I had to reload only once. The first time was hopeless, each time you fail that check, the attack that is spawn gets severe debuffs (including in the very check you have to pass). It passed on the second attempt.
But you're right, I wouldn't mind lowering the difficulty if I had no other choice like boosting the stats for that check. Though we saw that the DC could actually get higher with lower difficulty settings.
If there's an elegant solution, I'm accepting this and playing fair, but here it just seems random unless you happen to have someone in the party with high skills.
knowledge is power
It was much easier as a cleric, for sureI think it highlights the importance of knowledge/skill checks, especially when going into a fortress that was possessed by nasty demons for so long
I like that the game has those questions and checks in domains that are important for the story.
It was much easier as a cleric, for sure
But I do hate the number of ability damages we get in Pathfinder in a very short time, especially when they're permanent (I cheated with the difficulty settings and made them restore when resting).
During a simple combat, some enemies can permanently damage the ability of an entire group in one round, and all I have is Death Ward which only applies to one ally at a time. It's just not sustainable. Maybe I'm missing something.
I used to eat them like candy in Kingmaker
TB takes too much time and is too bugged to play, I've given up on this mode for the time being, even if I like it a lot. I suspect the game has been created with RTwP in mind anyway, like Kingmaker, or they would have adapted the encounters for TB.
