Witcher 3 - Play as Triss, Yennefer, or Others

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Only you and selected few do? Condescending much?

There are plenty of games where you can choose class, profession and gender. In this particular game you can't but, if Witcher franchise will continue, it will probably change. For now, me (and few others) like this game just exactly as it is.

Ghee, Hostile much? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Whats with the attack? I had no intention of being condescending - that attack came way out of left field.

I was merely pointing out the common and simple fact that people can relate better to a character when they share things in common - but this fact often gets lost to those in the majority who often take their majority status for granted. I see it all the time in discussions all over the internet. I find people don't seem to understand the importance of relating to a character when you are in a minority (or even female which might be considered a minority in a male dominated area). Often those in a majority aren't even aware it is an issue because they are so use to taking things for granted.

Anyhow it was an observation not an attack on anyone.
 
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Well that wouldn't be a Wicher game then would it?

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Maybe the two companies need to do a joint venture ….

I would disagree. There is more to the books then just Geralt. It is also about Witchers, the world, its universe of rules and lore, and so on. I see no reason at all why you can't have a world based on the Witchers and all the book lore only not have it featured with Geralt. It would be about the Witchers versus about The Witcher named Geralt.

Why are people so defensive lately? I was very surprised at the responses to my post. I was merely pointing out what I would like to see in another game.

I'm sorry I don't think the Witcher 3 game is the perfect thing since sliced bread or fire. I wasn't even slamming the game which I think is great if not to my taste.

Yet people completely slam and bash games I love all the time around here and I simply ignore them for the most part. But lord forbid I should suggest that I might like to see a different style of Witcher game even when I have noted in many other posts that I think its a very well made game.
 
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Thousands (may be millions) boys had no problem to do that playing Lara and other heroines. Your attitude make you sound like very special snowflake.

Lol of course not. Males are fine playing with a female character as long as they are sexy and let them enjoy their JO fantasies while watching them. It is why in Skyrim and FO4 the most popular mods are those for females … and often used by males. So they can make their ideal babe to play the game with and google the virtual porn.

Just look at FO4 mods right now. CBBE came out and there is a flood of mods coming out connected to it as well as images from guys with their over-sexed female characters.

Sure some women do enjoy playing a male character for the same reason, have a few female friends who almost always play male characters for the same reason, but I doubt most females view the issue in the same way men do.

I think (but no I don't have any solid facts for this) most men are okay with playing a male character that is fairly macho and bad-ass or a hot sexy female that they don't mind ogling while they play.
 
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It's not a matter of right and wrong…this game is based on entirely different design goal than TES or classical rpg. You lose customization and ability to relate to protagonist for one that is better connected to world and it's characters, has more cohesive sense of dialogue, sense of history while voice actor (s) usually have a better sense of what kind of personality they need to emulate.
When you have a voiced protagonist that's more "accesible" to widest public writers often need to "streamline" dialogue that sometimes turns out :
Moral dilemma:
a) We must save them all!
b) Indifference
c) We must kill them all!
I'd personally rather play five different games based on five different, personal themes, driven by five unique protagonists that strongly differ from one another. What race or gender options I'm offered, I consider secondary issue.
Like I said, this is a matter of PREFERENCE…luckily there are enough rpgs on the market to please anyone.
 
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Like I said, this is a matter of PREFERENCE…luckily there are enough rpgs on the market to please anyone.

Exactly! Why wish for the Witcher to be more like New Vegas where there is New Vegas?
 
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Males are fine playing with a female character as long as they are sexy and let them enjoy their JO fantasies while watching them. It is why in Skyrim and FO4 the most popular mods are those for females … and often used by males. So they can make their ideal babe to play the game with and google the virtual porn.

Doesn't it work both ways?
How many bald, fat, short male protagonists you get to play with? Check out Resident Evil, for instance. Would it even make sense otherwise?
One of my favorites from any game is Nillin (Remember Me)...she is attractive, fit as she should be for her role, but there is nothing about her that portrays her in that direction.
 
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Doesn't it work both ways?
How many bald, fat, short male protagonists you get to play with? Check out Resident Evil, for instance. Would it even make sense otherwise?
One of my favorites from any game is Nillin (Remember Me)…she is attractive, fit as she should be for her role, but there is nothing about her that portrays her in that direction.

I am not sure what you mean here, sorry. There are always exceptions and always people who have a more open approach. I am generalizing, stereotyping, on the young straight male is all. I could be wrong and happy to admit that.

My gut feeling, just based on things I have read, seen, talked about, etc, over my life suggests to me that guys might find it more enjoyable playing a hot sexy female then females would enjoy playing a handsome sexy man - or perhaps to get more exact on this I am trying to say I think most of the male gaming population is more content with being stuck with a female only character (as long as they are sexy) then females are are with a male only character.

I base this on the fact that a guy is either content to relate to a macho bad-ass male character as they might relate to, or wish to emulate, such a character OR a sexy female character that they can enjoy looking visually.

On the other hand female gamers would probably relate better to having a female character and have less wish to play a handsome male character then a male does a sexy female character.

Could be totally wrong though - I don't have any facts for this. Just an opinion that has formed in my head for some reason.

Also not talking everyone - more just the general masses.
 
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Exactly! Why wish for the Witcher to be more like New Vegas where there is New Vegas?

Hmmm not sure where there is confusion here. yes FNV is an awesome game and I really enjoyed it a lot.

My favorites, however, are fantasy. I happen to think the Witcher 3 has some of the best visual and atmosphere of any game ever made. It is very well done, full of detail, and the world is simply amazing.

So my confusion is why is it hard to imagine that someone might enjoy a more open world approach in such a setting?

So there is New Vegas indeed. But should I have to go … "well I have this great post-apoplectic world game I have played and really enjoyed. So I should just be satisfied with that. If I see another game with what I think is a very cool setting, with lots of neat lore and history, with a rich background and fantastic visuals in a genre that I really like … I shouldn't bother to comment or wish that it might be cool to play that game only in a different way?"

I guess if you can't understand that someone might like to wish how a game might be played in another way that they would enjoy more, or have different options … then I guess there isn't anything more to be said as I am at a complete loss as how to explain further why I think that is perfectly natural.

EDIT: I never said, by the way, that I think the existing games should never have been made, that they were bad, or awful, or anything like that. What I am saying is I would like to see another game, or a future game, take a more open approach to the main character. I am not asking to change what is - just stating what I personally would like to see in the future. I think it would be fun to make your own Witcher in the Witcher world.

Aye the story would not be nearly as strong but there are games with a more open character approach that still have a good story so I think a balance can be done.

Oh and also not saying they should stop making games as focused as the Witcher 3 or Tomb Raider or any number of games with a set protagonist. I am merely stating something I would like to see.
 
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Thread discussion makes me think of the Japanese developer who will no longer release games in the west due to harsh criticisms of female characters in game.
 
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Find it on youtube (HD version if possible), just DF2, don't bother with 1, 3, 4 and 5.
Turn off lights, fire it up, sit back and enjoy.
I'd put a link, but can't.
Thanks, I loved that! What an awesome video.
 
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No problem wolfgrim, there is something about having more control over your character like in TES games.
There is even a mod that makes your character literally grow in muscle size...very cool.
Here is a picture of my favorite Skyrim character

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On the other hand female gamers would probably relate better to having a female character and have less wish to play a handsome male character then a male does a sexy female character.
The way I see it, it's true that we'd relate better to a female character than male, but it can also be of note that generally women do not consider male power fantasy attractive or sexy. Contrary to popular opinion, a muscled macho is not considered sexy by a lot of women, so games with male protagonists don't give us an option to play as a sexy male.

As far as I remember, I only ever like men in JRPGs, and unfortunately, they're most frequently not men but boys, so I feel pervy for being even vaguely attracted. But I did notice, as far as I'm concerned (can't speak for other females) that I find it easier to relate to a JRPG male character than a WRPG one. I'm not sure if it's related to their sexiness or not. Maybe it's because there are no muscles and grim faces, which to me personally are all a sign of aggression, which is very far from sexiness.

Just my two cents.
 
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@bobo Well… erm… I guess you can't argue that it's not fantasy… but you'd think they'd get in the way somewhat when you swing your short-sword! Also, quite hard to defend, especially when they bounce in your face! I guess she's lucky there's magic!

@topic The single protagonist of The Witcher has always been its biggest general criticism, though not mine, but the very same people most likely consider Planescape: Torment one of their favourite RPGs. I've always considered both later Elder Scrolls and Witcher games to be quite strong deviations from classical RPG, but since the fading out of classical RPG from the mainstream I'm happy to accept that people take what they can get. It does worry me when people use the two against each other in the RPG debate though, they're both equal deviations, just in different directions.
 
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Didn't read the whole thread, but here's hoping they remove his voice all together and just use text dialog. Hopefully he can be removed from all 3 games, then the games would be worth playing.
 
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Really? Have you seen Skyrim penis for females addon? :smug:
Oh, so Skyrim is like the Sims games and their mods? :biggrin:

I suspect not quite yet. The last time I looked, Sims have everything you could think of, from anatomically correct bodies mods to whatever… whatever censored thing and added function you could imagine. It's funny how RPGs are going the same route.

In a way, simulation and role-playing a created character of your choice are similar concepts. Especially in a sandbox game like Skyrim.
 
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Dude, what's your point? You interviewed thousands of girls and know how poor little me deceives myself? Oh wait, you're a troll. I should've guessed! :) In a couple of forums I posted lately trolls weren't frequent, so I lost the hang of spotting you quickly. And if you aren't a troll then surely you do behave like one anyway, which means the end result is the same (frustrated feelings and waste of time), so… end of discussion.
 
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