|
Your donations keep RPGWatch running!
RPGWatch Forums » Comments » News Comments » Colony Ship - The Skills & Learn by Using

Default Colony Ship - The Skills & Learn by Using

November 12th, 2018, 05:52
A new update for Colony Ship focuses on the Skills & Learn by Using. Thanks Couchpotato!

But first let's take a look at how the Pit is shaping up:




Combat skills

Weapon skills – increase your to-hit chance by 10% per rank.
Evasion – reduces the enemy’s to-hit chance with guns by 5% per rank, with melee by 10% per rank.
Armor – reduces armor penalties by 10% per rank.
Critical Strike – increases your chance to score a critical hit by 5% per rank

Our goal here is to raise skills you’re using the most, ideally reinforcing your gameplay style, while eliminating all possible exploits to raise skill fast. Here is the design overview:

XP – experience points that go toward increasing your character level and gaining feats
LP - learning points that go toward increasing your skill level

  • Eeach attack that does X points of damage gives you X learning points multiplied by the enemy-specific modifier; the points go to the skill matching the weapon used. So if you hit an enemy for 8 points of damage and the modifier reflecting the enemy’s type is 1.5, you get 12 learning points.
  • Each critical strike gives the character who scored it 10+[critical damage] lp, so if you critically hits enemy for 17 points of damage, he gains 27lp. Certain weapon and attack types increase your CS chance and/or CS damage multiplier, so to put things in perspective, if you play a Riddick like character your CS skill will be much higher than if you play a Conan like character.
  • Evasion & Armor. This is where it gets a bit tricky as we have to limit exploits (the obvious one would be rotating your characters while letting the last remaining enemy to attack them to milk every last drop of LP). Each enemy will have a pool of learning points (i.e. what you can learn about defensive skills while fighting this enemy). Once the pool is depleted, the lesson is over. The points can go to one character or split evenly, based on how you fight. The frontliners will get the highest share while your sniper will learn very little or nothing at all.
  • Evasion: When the enemy targets your character and misses, that character gains 5 lp x the modifier until the above mentioned LP pool is depleted.
  • Armor: When the enemy hits your party member, that character gains learning points equal to damage resisted by the armor until the pool is depleted, so the heavier the armor the faster you’d develop the skill. Keep in mind that the pool is the same for both Evasion and Armor, so which skills gain learning points depends on which characters will be targeted first and whether the enemies hit or miss.
  • Each fight gives your party Y xp that's divided between the party members, so if you have 4 guys and you got 100 xp after a fight, each gets 25xp; if you have 2 guys, each gets 50xp. You’d gain most XP from solving quests though.

Science skills:

Medical:

  • Heal yourself and you crew after fights (i.e. how many hit points you gain after a fight). Very handy when you have to fight several battles in a row.
  • Extract implants from corpses after fights and in scripted events
  • Governs the use of combat stimulants

Mechanics & Electronics:

  • Repair broken devices and mechanisms
  • salvage parts for repair and upgrade

The ship is falling apart so if you want to explore it, meaning get past various obstacles, you won’t get far without these two skills. The best example from AoD would be the broken generator in the Library ruins. You need to fix it to gain access to an optional area but you can’t fix it without parts. In Colony Ship you’d have to salvage parts as you explore and then use them to repair various devices to gain access to optional areas.

Plus if you like restoring old things such as a murderous anti-riot droids, you should use every opportunity to practice these skills.

Stealth skills:

  • Lockpicking– open mechanical and electronic locks, meaning locked doors and containers. At level 10 you can even beat retinal scanners, so if you firmly believe in redistribution of wealth, this skill is for you.
  • Hacking – gain access to various computer systems, from intrusion detection and countermeasures to multi-purpose terminals scattered throughout the Ship. These terminals were designed to get the future colony up and running, so they can be easily hooked to various machines.
  • Sneaking – infiltrate restricted areas and live to tell the tale. The higher the skill the longer you can remain undetected, meaning you can take your time cleaning up a place or get into high-security places with faster detection.

Obviously, you’ll need all 3 skills to do any serious breaking and entering, but lockpicking and hacking will be very useful for explorers as well.

You’ll gain LPs every time you pick a lock, hack a terminal, or infiltrate a place. Needless to say each lock and terminal pays LPs only once and sneaking is a special event, kind of like decking in the new Shadowrun games – you can’t do it at will but only during quests and special encounters while exploring.

Speech skills:

  • Persuasion – convince people to do something through reasoning or argument, the art of debate
  • Streetwise – manipulate and deceive the gullible, the art of urban survival.
  • Impersonate – pretend to be someone else, the art of acting.

You gain 10lp every time you pick a tagged line (the points go to the skill matching the tag) plus 100 bonus points if you solve a quest with diplomacy. This way a pure talker would have much higher dialogue skills than a chatty killer (a man who clicks on all dialogue options first to gain all LP, then kills everyone anyway).
More information.
Silver is offline

Silver

Silver's Avatar
Spaceman
RPGWatch Team

#1

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,672
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)

Default 

November 12th, 2018, 07:07
All it needs now is a few hundred years worth of graffiti…
rjshae is offline

rjshae

rjshae's Avatar
Periapt vs Paronomasia
RPGWatch Donor

#2

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 4,332
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)

Default 

November 12th, 2018, 18:23
SOLD! Looks good. Shut up and take my money!
mercy is offline

mercy

mercy's Avatar
SasqWatch

#3

Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,805
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)

Default 

November 12th, 2018, 19:55
I like the detailed explanations on how combat and mechanics will work within in the game. This is something I can easily see myself playing in the future!
Carnifex is offline

Carnifex

SasqWatch

#4

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ormond Beach, FL.
Posts: 7,672
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)

Default 

November 12th, 2018, 22:36
Originally Posted by rjshae View Post
All it needs now is a few hundred years worth of graffiti…
This particular container town is fairly recent. The Habitat will look very different: futuristic, dystopian, and a few hundred years old.
VDweller is offline

VDweller

VDweller's Avatar
Watchdog

#5

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 225
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)

Default 

November 12th, 2018, 23:41
The learn by using can be tough to get right. Expect a gazillion patches for tweaking. Nearly every system of this nature I've seen or implemented have some minor issues. The best I've seen have been a composite gain in used skills lost in unused skills and some tweaking for balance of total skills you can learn (which was based off of stats depending on skill type). Still if not done right you either get the wonderful elder scroll games where every character knows everything by the end of the game or endless frustration trying to get your skills learned.
you is offline

you

Lazy_dog
RPGWatch Donor
Original Sin 2 Donor

#6

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: usa - boston
Posts: 5,824
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)

Default 

November 12th, 2018, 23:52
Originally Posted by you View Post
The learn by using can be tough to get right. Expect a gazillion patches for tweaking. Nearly every system of this nature I've seen or implemented have some minor issues. The best I've seen have been a composite gain in used skills lost in unused skills and some tweaking for balance of total skills you can learn (which was based off of stats depending on skill type). Still if not done right you either get the wonderful elder scroll games where every character knows everything by the end of the game or endless frustration trying to get your skills learned.
The game will work with specialists and non specialists so isn't too much of a problem but also as per the post, there will be a limited amount of skill points available contrary to the elder scrolls.

Anyway, the game will be in early access too for a while to tweak things too.

Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk
Pladio is offline

Pladio

Pladio's Avatar
Guardian of Nonsense
Original Sin Donor

#7

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,018
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Send a message via MSN to Pladio

Default 

November 13th, 2018, 19:45
Will there be a pay-for-training component to supplement skill improvement? If nothing else it's an additional reason to interact with NPCs, and it can be useful for improving skills you only use rarely.
rjshae is offline

rjshae

rjshae's Avatar
Periapt vs Paronomasia
RPGWatch Donor

#8

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 4,332
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)

Default 

November 13th, 2018, 23:34
Originally Posted by rjshae View Post
Will there be a pay-for-training component to supplement skill improvement? If nothing else it's an additional reason to interact with NPCs, and it can be useful for improving skills you only use rarely.
Yes.

VDweller is offline

VDweller

VDweller's Avatar
Watchdog

#9

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 225
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)

Default 

November 15th, 2018, 05:07
The screenshots remind me a LOT of Anachronox.
TheRealFluent is offline

TheRealFluent

TheRealFluent's Avatar
H.O.O. Inquisitor

#10

Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 820
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
RPGWatch Forums » Comments » News Comments » Colony Ship - The Skills & Learn by Using
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:08.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright by RPGWatch