Lionheart - Ion Hardie Interview @RPGCodex

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Ion Hardie, lead designer of Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader, was interviewed by the RPGCodex recently and had some interesting things to say.

Fairfax: Yes, most reviews focus on how the game got worse after Barcelona, and I agree, but the game deserved more credit.

Ion: We should have just made the game shorter, cut out England entirely and focused on the ending scene. We tried to do too much in the time we had. Black Isle was going under and was late with just about every milestone payment...we had to hire people that we didn't have their first paycheck for, which is always fun.

Fairfax: Did you get the milestone payments later?

Ion: We had to withhold the game eventually...at the end, they asked us to trust that they would pay us, but we had too many bad experiences for that. We did get the money, but only because we played hard ball...and Feargus was on our side.

In hindsight, it's one of the better stories of the development of the game, though we didn't think so at the time.
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Fairfax: I'd like to ask about the creative aspects of the game.

Two users (RK-47 and Apan) asked something I've always wondered as well: why the decison to go with an Action RPG real-time combat system?

On one hand, with the SPECIAL system and the "Fantasy Fallout" codename, one might've expected turn-based combat. On the other hand, the vast majority of Black Isle games used real-time with pause. Unlike the other Black Isle games, in Lionheart the player cannot issue combat commands while the game is paused, which brings it closer to Diablo and similar games.

Ion: We had just launched Star Trek Away Team, and Black Isle wanted to create something that was an action take, and they thought we could do it, based on our Star Trek game. As we went along, sadly, we actually thought that issuing commands while paused would have been better (much better). However, our programmers had told me we couldn't go back and just "add that" without completely missing our development schedule.

Fairfax: Interesting, I don't think that was public knowledge.

MotherMachinae had another question about the combat system:
"If they went with real time then why they choose so high speed? You had to be under influence of some drugs that make slo-mo effect or something. Even with patch that slide speed it was still unbearable."

Ion: Honestly, I don't remember why we went with the exact speed that we did. The development schedule that we agreed to didn't leave us much time for experimentation, and we really needed it. When you are creating something brand new like that (and not just copying something else verbatim that works) there needs to be time to see what feels good and what doesn't, and then adjust. We really had to just start running pretty quickly.

I do want to be clear that we were still responsible for making a better game than we did. There were plenty of reasons you could point to that provided less than ideal conditions, but that's life. Overcoming obstacles is what it is all about...and if we were so dedicated to quality, we could have chosen another path. It was just tough when that path was probably going to lead us through some even rougher financial hardships.

It's only now, with so much more experience behind me, that I see the probable failure that awaited us. At the time, there was still hope that we would tie it together, somehow, into something fun.
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Loved the game, especially the music, some of best Innon Zur tracks:





Also setting, characters, dialogue, humor. Perks were also pretty extensive. Skills were a bit lackluster though.
But yeah, it really went off rails with combat, espec with that dungeon.
 
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I played 10+ hours of the game recently in a mini-LP on YouTube. Gotta go back to it sometime. It was really cool meeting famous real-world people in the game, exploring the interesting setting and what not. The entire game was pretty much was on point, as you would expect for a quality old-school RPG. Check it out if you want something a bit different.
 
Incredible first part of a game, but yes, after Barcelona it went to shite and I stopped playing soon after. Pity...
 
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I also enjoyed it at the start and remember it had too much combat. I got to some ice parts (with giants I think) and quit it there.
 
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First 10-12 hours didn't have too much combat, IMO. It had non-level scaled encounters, I think, and you'd run into tough and even impossible ones, but some were beatable on a second or third try.
 
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Incredible first part of a game, but yes, after Barcelona it went to shite and I stopped playing soon after. Pity…
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Indeed. The first half (Barcelona) was actually very good. I really enjoyed it. The second half was not worth playing, unfortunately.
 
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Maylander said:
Indeed. The first half (Barcelona) was actually very good. I really enjoyed it. The second half was not worth playing, unfortunately.
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If it only was the first half.
More like first quarter, if that much.
 
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Yeah it seemed like such a great game in the beginning. Then I kept waiting for all of the mindless repetitive combat to end so I could get back to what made the game great. Only it never happened. It was like you were suddenly playing a completely different game.

I remember there was a brief moment of false hope when I got to a small town in the 2nd half of the game that actually had NPCs and meaningful conversation choices again. But it didn't last long before we were back to long repetitive combat again.
 
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It was an amazing opening act, followed by a steaming pile afterwards. So sad.
 
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Ditch everything after that village and have last act play in London like in first Act.
After that Assassin fortress-> the end. Could have easily rivaled the old classics then.
 
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First half was more Baldur's Gate and second half was more Diablo. But in the end it was a good RPG. Also a bold movement, since alternate history RPGs are very rare. For that alone it deserves praise.
 
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First half was more Baldur's Gate and second half was more Diablo. But in the end it was a good RPG. Also a bold movement, since alternate history RPGs are very rare. For that alone it deserves praise.
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Yup, I loved reading the entire alternate history on the website at the time.
I wonder if it's still up somewhere.
 
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It had a trait called "Renaissance Man." It was the first time I read that term and I will remember the game forever just for that.
 
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