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July 10th, 2021, 23:36
Baldur's Gate III Preview - Gamebanshee
So far it looks like Larian is doing with Baldur's Gate what Bethesda did with Fallout -- putting one of their games into an existing franchise. Bethesda was lucky in a sense that the post-apocalyptic setting from Fallout wasn't anything like the Elder Scrolls setting, and so nobody confused Fallout 3 with Skyrim 2. But with Larian, the opposite is true, and with a few edits here and there, Baldur's Gate III could easily be Divinity: Original Sin 3.

Is that good or bad? The answer might depend on your age. I grew up with the Baldur's Gate series, and so I'm wary of a new game in the franchise that doesn't have anything to do with the original games, has a completely different style, uses a new rule set, and has so many tieflings and githyanki around that it barely feels like it's in the Forgotten Realms. Larian could have just started their own Dungeons & Dragons franchise. They're a popular enough developer that I don't think it would have hurt their sales at all.

But given the situation, Baldur's Gate III seems to be coming along fine. The first chapter is packed with high quality content, and that bodes well for the rest of the game. I might argue that Larian seems to be paying more attention to the official Dungeons & Dragons rulebooks and manuals rather than the first two games in the series, but perhaps they're looking for a clean break on purpose. Or, given that many of the people you meet in the first chapter mention Baldur's Gate, maybe we'll see that city soon, and the game will begin feeling like it belongs in the series. Plus, maybe we'll see some cameos.

Baldur's Gate III doesn't have a release date yet, but since it's nowhere near being complete, don't expect it before 2022. In fact, unless Larian is holding back a bunch of the game from early access, I'd say don't expect it until 2023. Pretty much everything can change between now and then. It'll be interesting to watch how the game evolves.
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July 13th, 2021, 19:57
I got this far and my head exploded. Is this author < 20?

"So far it looks like Larian is doing with Baldur's Gate what Bethesda did with Fallout -- putting one of their games into an existing franchise. Bethesda was lucky in a sense that the post-apocalyptic setting from Fallout wasn't anything like the Elder Scrolls setting, and so nobody confused Fallout 3 with Skyrim 2."

There's a really good reason nobody confused Fallout 3 with Skyrim 2. Skyrim did not exist when Fallout 3 came out.

But did people endlessly compare Fallout 3 to the BGS game that WAS out, Oblivion? Oh yes, yes they did. "Oblivion with guns" they said, after taking a 5 second casual glance at the new Bethesda game.

I'm going to comfortably assume the same ignorance and superficiality in any analysis of BG3 being another Divinity game (a comparison that has already been lazy most every time it's been made)
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July 13th, 2021, 20:45
Very superficial and not very interesting, the guy doesn't seem to know the context very well either. It's a bit weird he releases a preview 2 days before the next patch too, it's not as if Larian updated very often.
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There's a really good reason nobody confused Fallout 3 with Skyrim 2. Skyrim did not exist when Fallout 3 came out.

But did people endlessly compare Fallout 3 to the BGS game that WAS out, Oblivion? Oh yes, yes they did. "Oblivion with guns" they said, after taking a 5 second casual glance at the new Bethesda game.
Well spotted, I suppose he meant Oblivion too. I'm pretty sure there was another article or video recently making exactly the same parallel, maybe he took inspiration from there but mixed up the names.
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Well Larian would be ecstatic if they could sell Fallout 3 level of copies, so I'm all for it. I'm pretty sure Fallout 3 alone has sold more copies than all Larian games combined. Even though I'm not a big Larian fan, I hope they can sell that many copies. It's good for the genre as a whole.
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July 14th, 2021, 00:12
True despite how much flak Bethesda gets their games sell 20+ million over five years after its release. I doubt another game has come close except for GTA5 & GTA Online.

So in conclusion I doubt BG 3 will sell that many but still a decent amount.
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July 14th, 2021, 00:55
Baldur's Gate 3: Everything We Know - PCGamer
One of PC's greatest RPGs is getting a sequel made by the creators of another one of the best RPGS of all time. It's been almost 20 years since Baldur's Gate concluded in Throne of Bhaal, but Larian Studios is finally taking us back to the Sword Coast. Baldur's Gate 3 is currently in Early Access and receiving regular patches and updates.

Despite embracing the rules of D&D, Baldur's Gate 3 is a distinctly Larian game. Combat is turn-based, for instance, which makes it more like D&D but less like Baldur's Gate. And like Original Sin 2, It's a systemic RPG that compels you to experiment, trying to capture some of the freeform adventuring that you might get up to in a tabletop game. Read on for everything we know about Baldur's Gate 3.
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True despite how much flak Bethesda gets their games sell 20+ million over five years after its release. I doubt another game has come close except for GTA5 & GTA Online.

So in conclusion I doubt BG 3 will sell that many but still a decent amount.
Seeing how long is the EA, maybe they have a chance to break CP's record of sales on day 1

1 million the first week doesn't sound bad, better than Divinity: Original Sin 2 that took 2-3 months to reach it. And that was on Steam only. Now the range given by Steam is 2-5 million owned games (not "bought" strictly speaking, but I doubt there's much giveaway and free week-end actions with BG3).

That's Steam Spy, not sure they're as reliable as they say. Also, they do say it's not reliable just after release, so this number for the first week may be quite off.
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Bah developers/publishers are always chasing the GTA sale numbers. They rarely ever do. Anyway CP 2077 sold around 14-15 million since it released so it's not a failure.

Just not GTA sale numbers nor Bethesda's.

I just hope Act 2 and 3 of BG III don't fall flat like the OS games. I call it the curse of Larian as the ending content is always sub-par to the rest of their recent games.

Feels like Swen and his staff get burned out and go meh just release it already.
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Bah developers/publishers are always chasing the GTA sale numbers. They rarely ever do. Anyway CP 2077 sold around 14-15 million since it released so it's not a failure.

Just not GTA sale numbers nor Bethesda's.

I just hope Act 2 and 3 of BG III don't fall flat like the OS games. I call it the curse of Larian as the ending content is always sub-par to the rest of their recent games.

Feels like Swen and his staff get burned out and go meh just release it already.
With games that long, it must be hard to keep the same motivation and the same quality until the end. Same for testing it in QA.

Imagine spending 100+ hours reporting bugs, then Swen walks into the office and says "guys, we looked at the stats and we're changing how the dice roll and how the advantage/disadvantage works, can you test again before next week?"
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Seeing how long is the EA, maybe they have a chance to break CP's record of sales on day 1

1 million the first week doesn't sound bad, better than Divinity: Original Sin 2 that took 2-3 months to reach it. And that was on Steam only. Now the range given by Steam is 2-5 million owned games (not "bought" strictly speaking, but I doubt there's much giveaway and free week-end actions with BG3).

That's Steam Spy, not sure they're as reliable as they say. Also, they do say it's not reliable just after release, so this number for the first week may be quite off.
Well, this is exactly the reason they went with the Baldur's Gate title instead of making an original D&D game. The name alone is going to sell a significant amount of copies.

Not that an original D&D game from them wouldn't have sold well, but I highly doubt it would be anywhere near that amount.
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