Very different. Hard to compare. I really like and enjoy both for different reasons. Gameplay is quite different though both have story and quests.
Replaying Might and Magic VII
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dteowner
Shoegazer
6 is longer and has more to do. 7 has a much more robust and interesting character development system and the fork in the story. You can't really go wrong with either one, but I prefer 7 because, as a proper spreadsheet gamer, I put a high value on character development.
Dark Savant
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Why would anyone want to go through all that? As I said above just use Grayface patch. It already includes official patch, Mok`s patch any many useful additional fixes to run the game on modern systems. There were still many bugs present after Mok`s patch and Grayface fixed most of them
I'll certainly play with a patched game, thanks!
@ 6 vs 7:
I feel that 7 is, by far, the stronger game. It has everything you could ever want from an RPG. It's in the same category as Baldur's Gate 2, being virtually complete (always room for improvement and all that, but realistically it's pretty much as good as it gets).
The extra classes, the important choices (not just light or dark, but also political choices between factions), the areas. It all feels a lot more solid.
@ My original question:
I think I'll stick with Paladin - Ranger - Cleric - Sorcerer. Plenty of magic, but still able to master the most important skills. Unfortunately I won't be able to squeeze in Grand Master Alchemy (for the permanent potions).
@ 6 vs 7:
I feel that 7 is, by far, the stronger game. It has everything you could ever want from an RPG. It's in the same category as Baldur's Gate 2, being virtually complete (always room for improvement and all that, but realistically it's pretty much as good as it gets).
The extra classes, the important choices (not just light or dark, but also political choices between factions), the areas. It all feels a lot more solid.
@ My original question:
I think I'll stick with Paladin - Ranger - Cleric - Sorcerer. Plenty of magic, but still able to master the most important skills. Unfortunately I won't be able to squeeze in Grand Master Alchemy (for the permanent potions).
dteowner
Shoegazer
You're going to be pretty weak on L&T, too. That's always the one that's a pain in the butt to cover. Best compromise I came up with was an evil-side monk, who can get master-level L&T but still do well in melee.
Well, Earth Magic is able to handle it from Master and beyond I think? You avoid both traps and locks by opening with Telekenisis. Not sure if there's anything Telekenisis can't handle though, I honestly don't remember. There might be, in which case the Ranger just won't cut it I suppose.
Edit: Now that I think about it, Archer has access to Expert Disarm too, don't they? In that case I'll stick with Paladin - Archer - Cleric - Sorcerer, since the Archer has higher ranged output. Also, that would balance out the magic somewhat:
Self - Master (Paladin) + Grand Master (Cleric)
Elemental - Master (Archer) + Grand Master (Sorcerer)
Also, this party will be good. If I decide to make an evil party, I'll probably make something crazy like Monk - Druid - Sorcerer + random, because I really like the evil version of those classes (especially Druid -> Warlock and Sorcerer -> Lich).
Edit: Now that I think about it, Archer has access to Expert Disarm too, don't they? In that case I'll stick with Paladin - Archer - Cleric - Sorcerer, since the Archer has higher ranged output. Also, that would balance out the magic somewhat:
Self - Master (Paladin) + Grand Master (Cleric)
Elemental - Master (Archer) + Grand Master (Sorcerer)
Also, this party will be good. If I decide to make an evil party, I'll probably make something crazy like Monk - Druid - Sorcerer + random, because I really like the evil version of those classes (especially Druid -> Warlock and Sorcerer -> Lich).
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Rithrandil
SasqWatch
Sweet! Thank you for that link, Dark Savant. It'll help when I get this game going this summer.
Did GOG do a re-release of everything? Have the originals somewhere but if there's an updated version that works with XP then I'll probably buy them again.
Sadly they don't have MM7. They only have MM1-6 as far as I know.
I bought the "Millenium Edition" many years ago, which included MM7. I don't know why GOG is unable to get that version instead of the one they have. MM7 is a must as far I'm concerned if I'm replaying the MM series.
I bought the "Millenium Edition" many years ago, which included MM7. I don't know why GOG is unable to get that version instead of the one they have. MM7 is a must as far I'm concerned if I'm replaying the MM series.
azraelck
Angel of Cookies!
Most likely, they want to eventually sell MM7 by itself. Off the last 5 games (6-9, DMofMM), MM7 is generally rated the best, followed by 6. The last 2 were meh and fail, respectively, and I won't touch anything Ubisoft sells due to their constant harassment and assault on the people who buy their games, so I will not ever buy DMofMM.
Financially, I certainly would prefer to have MM7 selling for $10, along with 6 selling for $10 (or whatever it may be) rather than both together at $15. However, you would have to pay me to play 8 again, and 9 would require more than that.
Financially, I certainly would prefer to have MM7 selling for $10, along with 6 selling for $10 (or whatever it may be) rather than both together at $15. However, you would have to pay me to play 8 again, and 9 would require more than that.
Forget about buying M&MV II seperately, look for the M&M Platinum Edition. It includes M&M VI - IX, plus the maps for all 4 games.
Thrasher
Wheeee!
I already have VI separately. I REALLY like all the original printed manuals, which I think are missing from the Platinum version. Or am I wrong?
I actually didn't think 8 was too bad, though not as good as the previous 2. Using a Dragon made the game much easier, but it still could be fun. 9 is not open to discussion; it doesn't really exist!! 
I agree completely with Corwin. MM8 is a fairly good game, and while both dragons and liches are overpowered, the game itself is quite fun. I like the various factions, and I also enjoyed the "wow" effect of recruiting some of the most powerful NPCs, the ones you had to really work to get (i.e the best lich comes fully equipped with every possible spell and grand master of all magic).
MM9 is the result of costs being cut (not enough developers or development time). From what I know, Caneghem himself was not even involved (or at least not as much as he used to).
MM9 is the result of costs being cut (not enough developers or development time). From what I know, Caneghem himself was not even involved (or at least not as much as he used to).
dteowner
Shoegazer
Recruiting your party was actually my biggest complaint against MM8. I thought it put a double-headed axe right thru the soul of the character development, which was always the high point of the M&M series.
Yep, Caneghem wasn't part of the MM9 team, and it showed. Add in that the team wanted to "modernize" the series (after all the complaints about MM8 being a poor helping of more-of-the-same), and you've got a recipe for disaster. You set out to blow up a successful formula and you don't have the guy that just might be able to navigate you thru such a treacherous journey...
I must be one of the few that actually enjoys MM9. It's got some bugs, but fans patched up the worst ones. It's not a great game, but I found it better than MM8 overall. VII and III are my faves.
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dteowner
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If MM9 had been named "Pear Quest" and gotten some official patches, it might have been an OK game. It just couldn't stand up to the expectations for a M&M game.
magerette
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My sentiments exactly. IIRC(I only spent ten minutes with the game, and ditto with 9 so I kind of get them confused) you couldn't roll but one of your party, and had to recruit the rest from inns all premade. Took the fun out of it all for me.
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