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Cyberpunk 2077 - E3 Trailer
June 19th, 2019, 19:16
I like Keanu Reeves, but I hope his character isn't featured prominently throughout the game because I think I'd find that distracting. One or two side missions with him would be cool though.
June 19th, 2019, 19:22
Yeah, I liked Point Break and Bill and Ted (more than Waynes World) and Matrix (not but the sequels).
June 20th, 2019, 15:55
Originally Posted by SirJamesNeverheard…
Point Break

Originally Posted by SirJamesDon't you dare to die before watching both movies!
Bill and Ted
Originally Posted by SirJamesMeh.
Waynes World
Originally Posted by SirJamesThe first one rocks, sequels sukk.
Matrix (not but the sequels).
Originally Posted by JDR13He is not playing himself but a certain character. If I understood everything correctly, all the main story missions post introduction will have him involved, sidequests won't. Thus, you shouldn't fastrun the game.
I like Keanu Reeves, but I hope his character isn't featured prominently throughout the game because I think I'd find that distracting. One or two side missions with him would be cool though.

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June 20th, 2019, 19:54
I like Keanu - I think he's a nice bloke. He also seems quite a thoughtful sort of chap. I don't think he's a great actor, by any means, but I think it works when he's doing one of his Keanu characters. I could imagine him working fine in Cyberpunk.
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"Where can the horizon lie, when a nation hides its organic minds in a cellar, dark and grim? They must be very dim." David Bowie, All the Madmen (1970)
June 20th, 2019, 19:55
Originally Posted by JDR13He has a prominent role. A sidekick of sorts?
I like Keanu Reeves, but I hope his character isn't featured prominently throughout the game because I think I'd find that distracting. One or two side missions with him would be cool though.
https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2019…cyberpunk-2077

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June 21st, 2019, 09:11
I have been thinking about this problem yesterday. In movies you have the problem that well known actors are known for their previous roles. Viewers may have problems to keep the roles seperated and thus may have difficulties to experience believable characters.
I'm not a cineaste but it was difficult for me with Patrick Stewart in as Professor X in X-Men (knowing him as Picard in Star Trek) and with Hugo Weaving as Elrond in LotR (knowing him as Agent Smith in Matrix).
People watching more movies and series than me (which isn't difficult) might experience this more often.
In video games we haven't had this problem until very recently because all the characters have been created and modeled from scratch or have only been inspired or voiced by actors. Now they're using "perfect" avatars of famous actors and we might get the same problems as in movies.
Also I don't think that inclusing famous actors is a good concept in the long run financially. Of course, you get a lot of good PR and might increase your sales. But competitors will do the same and the positive effect of higher sales disappears*. So all you'll ultimatley get is that production of game like this will get even more expensive.
And that without an actual artistic advantage.
Or will we have this high quality cafial mocap like Benedict Cumberbatch in The Hobbit or Andy Serkins in LotR in video games too? Are well known (and expensive) actors so much better in this than cheaper ones?
*Edit: On a seconds thought that's only true if the market doesn't grow. If the market grows it could still be positive for all competitors. So perhaps it's all about growing the video game market and stealing from the traditional movie/TV market.
I'm not a cineaste but it was difficult for me with Patrick Stewart in as Professor X in X-Men (knowing him as Picard in Star Trek) and with Hugo Weaving as Elrond in LotR (knowing him as Agent Smith in Matrix).
People watching more movies and series than me (which isn't difficult) might experience this more often.
In video games we haven't had this problem until very recently because all the characters have been created and modeled from scratch or have only been inspired or voiced by actors. Now they're using "perfect" avatars of famous actors and we might get the same problems as in movies.
Also I don't think that inclusing famous actors is a good concept in the long run financially. Of course, you get a lot of good PR and might increase your sales. But competitors will do the same and the positive effect of higher sales disappears*. So all you'll ultimatley get is that production of game like this will get even more expensive.
And that without an actual artistic advantage.
Or will we have this high quality cafial mocap like Benedict Cumberbatch in The Hobbit or Andy Serkins in LotR in video games too? Are well known (and expensive) actors so much better in this than cheaper ones?
*Edit: On a seconds thought that's only true if the market doesn't grow. If the market grows it could still be positive for all competitors. So perhaps it's all about growing the video game market and stealing from the traditional movie/TV market.
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June 21st, 2019, 10:52
Originally Posted by MorrandirThey're using "perfect" avatars - now?
In video games we haven't had this problem until very recently because all the characters have been created and modeled from scratch or have only been inspired or voiced by actors. Now they're using "perfect" avatars of famous actors and we might get the same problems as in movies.
You didn't notice Miranda from Mass Effect (2&3) in Handmaid's Tale?
She nailed it. Both roles, ofc.

But Miranda isn't from now.
Additionally creating characters from scratch goes with the acting territory, videogames don't have to be involved yet the person can be unrecognizable visually:
https://www.ranker.com/list/helena-b…ions/eric-vega
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June 21st, 2019, 11:07
Originally Posted by MorrandirI don't think so. The idea of the movie star has always been more about marketing; about who can draw an audience. There's tons of talented actors out there we've never heard of. I always believe that actors should never be your problem - things go wrong in the writing and direction.
Or will we have this high quality cafial mocap like Benedict Cumberbatch in The Hobbit or Andy Serkins in LotR in video games too? Are well known (and expensive) actors so much better in this than cheaper ones?
I think it would be quite possible to get excellent game performances from unknown actors. I like the idea of motion capture performances, as that lets them actually play the scenes, and gets away from that recording booth feeling.
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"Where can the horizon lie, when a nation hides its organic minds in a cellar, dark and grim? They must be very dim." David Bowie, All the Madmen (1970)
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June 21st, 2019, 11:16
Originally Posted by joxerI remember her very well.
They're using "perfect" avatars - now?
You didn't notice Miranda from Mass Effect (2&3) in Handmaid's Tale?
She nailed it. Both roles, ofc.
But Miranda isn't from now.

But the actress she's been modeled after was (and is?) not very well known. So the problem doesn't apply.
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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
- George Bernard Shaw
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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
- George Bernard Shaw
Currently playing: Civilization VI
June 21st, 2019, 14:08
Was not "superstar" at the time. She used to get roles only in cheap aussie productions. But her career went upwards after ME2 role - she apparently appeared in two overhyped mainstream praising mundanity shows I refused to watch and have no regrets (Chuck, Dexter).
The question is would EA pay her to reprise the Miranda role today. She's not as cheap any more. Then again, they wouldn't pay Keanu either.
The question is would EA pay her to reprise the Miranda role today. She's not as cheap any more. Then again, they wouldn't pay Keanu either.

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