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December 7th, 2019, 07:49
I just finished the game. Put about 100 hours into it. Haven’t seen any discussions about this game here just curious what others thought about it. I thought it was fun though flawed in some ways. Wind Waker still remains my favorite.
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December 7th, 2019, 09:15
I played it when it first came out but, unfortunately, didn't get past the first couple of towers. I'm ashamed because all my friends who played and beat the game really enjoyed it. I intend to get back into it eventually.

What were the flaws you noticed?
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December 7th, 2019, 10:30
I played it some and really liked it. I keep meaning to return for a full playthrough, but it's sitting in a fairly large backlog at the moment. Did you play the Switch version?

I'm surprised that Wind Waker is your favorite. I enjoyed that one too, but I'd put it behind BotW, Twilight Princess, and A Link to the Past. Although that last one might just be nostalgia talking.
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December 7th, 2019, 15:58
I played this game several years ago, when I first acquired my switch, I think it was maybe the summer of 2017? Initially I didn't think it was very good when I first started playing, but the more I played the more I got drawn into it. I played through this game twice during the time I owned the console, and I enjoyed it quite a lot.
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December 8th, 2019, 03:06
Botw is a great Zelda game. It's worth a play through by any fan of the series. The game does so many things right but sadly does some things wrong too.

Since Ultima VII, one of my favorite things for a game to have is a seamless world that has a bit of world simulating going on with it. Botw is both seamless (for the most part) and includes great mechanics, fun physics, and meaningful cooking which all have a world simulating effect that is enjoyable and intuitive. Also, it's worth noting that the seamlessness, mechanics, and physics are competently implemented - they all work everywhere to a fault. Swen of Larian talks many times about mechanics that "just work" everywhere you use them - botw does exactly that. The game engine is solid, competent, and bug free (I experienced zero bugs while playing or if there was a bug I didn't notice).

The size of the game world is a mixed blessing. On the one hand, it's a BIG game. Tons of locations along with an overall art direction that is eye candy which motivates you to explore every nook and cranny to find just one more treasure or one more secret. The map too is very well done with different scales so you can zoom in and out with great detail. Though you can't put notes on the map, the game gives you two ways to mark the map with either icons or "pins."

The bad of all this is that though there is a good bit of variation in the game, there just isn't enough variation given the size of the map. By variation I mean different things a player can do to engage the environment while exploring. If you really want to fully explore the game world before completing the story of the game, it becomes a bit of a slog. If you just follow the main quests and beat the game in a dozen or so hours, this is less of an issue because you will not have explored anywhere near the full map (in any meaningful way anyhow) in just a dozen hours or so hours.

When it comes to combat, I'm in the camp that doesn't like the weapons breaking all the time. I found it annoying and just not very fun. That is admittedly my own subjective point of view. I'd rather this mechanic not be repeated but if it is it's not a game changer - I'd still play another Zelda despite this.

I put about 100 hours into this game over two months - played it all of October and November. So I certainly liked the game. But the thing that gnaws at me is this feeling that I could have beat the game dozens of hours sooner if I wanted to. What I don't like about that is this feeling that there's a lot you can do in this game but a lot of it really doesn't matter. Explore all 120 shrines? That's great but you don't need to explore many to beat the game.

What I liked about past Zelda games is that progression was tighter along with a tighter narrative. It's tough to do this in an open world game, but the absence of a stronger feeling of progression and tighter narrative leaves a sour taste after beating the game. This is why Wind Waker is one of my favorites - it has a good compromise between "open world," progression, and narrative.

I also hope future Zelda games, should they follow the open world precedent set by botw, will largely forget about using a bunch of shrines to build up hearts and stamina. It was okay I guess in this one iteration of Zelda but I really wouldn't want to have it that way in another Zelda game. Like others, I prefer fewer but more detailed dungeons with their own themes and little to none of the "samey" shrines and ancient beasts. I'll probably never replay botw because the idea of building up hearts/stamina by completing shrines to the extent where I could survive an encounter with a Lynel just isn't appealing to me.

Another aspect of the game that slowly widdled away my patience while playing was the overuse of atmospheric effects. Mostly, players want to be able to see the game world. Atmospheric effects are great, but they are way overdone in botw to the extent that 80% of the time I was having a real hard time seeing the game world. It should be the other way around where I can see the game world 80% of the time. There was high contrast, lens flare, cloudiness, rain, fog, smoke, night time… all of which are okay and welcome but not to the extent implemented in botw. I had a few sessions where I actually developed a headache from straining to see the game world. That all said, botw had a fantastic draw distance, whenever the atmospheric effects would abate and let you see it.

Cooking is useful in the game but the devs don't respect the player's time when they don't include a recipe book for you in the UI. The devs give you this huge game world that you can get lost in for 100s of hours if you want along with a meaningful cooking mechanic but a) they won't make the UI remember successful recipes b) you have to go into the UI and individually select ingredients and c) they want you to watch the cooking animation over and over again. It's all just way to cumbersome. Not a huge gripe but I hope if they have cooking in a future game that the UI will help you out by creating a recipe list once you've discovered a food item and just let you pick from that list instead of having to always remember which ingredients are for which food item along with the cooking animation (which yes, you can bypass but you'll still see a little of it regardless).

Another worthy mention is this - I get this feeling that the devs spent much of their development time creating the wonderful game engine they built for botw, but found themselves with too little time to populate it with enough variation given the size of the map.

If rumors are true that the next Zelda game will essentially be botw2 (same game world) it's okay with me if the development time is largely spent on making their huge game world with enough variation throughout to make the time you spend in it feel important and meaningful as opposed to "well you can do this and that if you want but you don't have to."

More quests, better quests, quests more tightly interwoven with the overall narrative and plot of the game, less shrines, more varying dungeons, progression of hearts/stamina done a different way than shrines, weapons you can keep and use so that you can develop your own fighting style. Perhaps not introduce all abilities so quickly and have the player find them gradually via quests or just something else to search for besides the 900th korok seed.
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December 8th, 2019, 05:00
I have played several hours of BotW on my Switch before getting pulled into other PC game ports (Wolfenstein Youngblood, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin and now Witcher) … really want to go back and play through because I thought it was pretty awesome as far as I played.
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December 8th, 2019, 18:35
Are any of these pc games ?
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December 8th, 2019, 22:32
As far as I'm aware, not a single Zelda game is available for the computer owners. They seem limited to consoles only.
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December 9th, 2019, 05:12
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Are any of these pc games ?
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As far as I'm aware, not a single Zelda game is available for the computer owners. They seem limited to consoles only.
Zelda is a Nintendo franchise.
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December 9th, 2019, 05:22
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As far as I'm aware, not a single Zelda game is available for the computer owners. They seem limited to consoles only.
Well you can play them on the PC using emulators.
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December 9th, 2019, 07:25
I started playing BoTW on and emulator when it first was released but there was some glitches and I never ended up going back. One day I will, it was a good game to me.
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December 9th, 2019, 14:12
Originally Posted by Couchpotato View Post
Well you can play them on the PC using emulators.
Can you mod the Switch Zelda with emulators… The one with Ubisoft towers?
Because I've heard that below the hub it's cooking sim with all weapons so badly crafted they break after a couple of hits.
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December 9th, 2019, 15:07
Originally Posted by Couchpotato View Post
Well you can play them on the PC using emulators.
Sure … and I’m certain you can figure out a way to play modern FPS with only a standard QWERTY keyboard and no mouse. Same thing.

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Can you mod the Switch Zelda with emulators… The one with Ubisoft towers?
Because I've heard that below the hub it's cooking sim with all weapons so badly crafted they break after a couple of hits.
You ‘hear’ from idiots.

Look - this isn’t your type of game, never will be. So perhaps you ought to stay out of threads that are of no interest to you in the first place. The forum already has one ChienAboyeur.
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December 9th, 2019, 20:04
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@joxer is free to say what he like in this or any other thread, as long it is in line with the TOS.

I have noticed lately you tend to respond in a rather agressive way. I advise you to tone it down.
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December 9th, 2019, 20:07
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@txa1265

@joxer is free to say what he like in this or any other thread, as long it is in line with the TOS.

I have noticed lately you tend to respond in a rather agressive way. I advise you to tone it down.
I made a modification to the last sentence - and would like a ruling of:
A) was my original statement not in line with TOS?
B) is modified in line with TOS?
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December 9th, 2019, 20:30
Originally Posted by txa1265 View Post
I made a modification to the last sentence
Better.
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- and would like a ruling of:
A) was my original statement not in line with TOS?
B) is modified in line with TOS?
You seem to know what the problem was. If you still want to discuss the particulars of your post, this is not the proper place. Take it to PM.
Back on topic.
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December 9th, 2019, 20:39
Hmm, I don't really own a TV, can you hook Switch/PS4/Xbox etc up to a computer and or pc/monitor? I game about 18 inches from my screen.
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December 9th, 2019, 20:42
Originally Posted by crpgnut View Post
Hmm, I don't really own a TV, can you hook Switch/PS4/Xbox etc up to a computer and or pc/monitor? I game about 18 inches from my screen.
Any of those have HDMI outputs, so if your monitor has an HDMI input (our an adapter), then you should be able to do it without issue.

As someone who has liked handheld games since original GameBoy to supplement my PC gaming, I have only plugged into the TV once for ‘proof of concept’. Just my gaming habits though …
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December 9th, 2019, 20:44
Well then, something to think about. I would have to make room as my man cave has about -15 square ft of free space I loved the very first Zelda, but that was a long time ago. I'd probably still enjoy that type of game though.
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December 9th, 2019, 20:49
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Well then, something to think about. I would have to make room as my man cave has about -15 square ft of free space I loved the very first Zelda, but that was a long time ago. I'd probably still enjoy that type of game though.
But you would have to like the game library - I am an idiot so I play a bunch of PC game ports that are better on PC but are pretty solid on the Switch and give me the portability factor. Zelda is one of the few ‘real’ Switch games I have played, and it is pretty excellent. The Mario stuff is also supposed to be very good, and of course Super Smash Bros.
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