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November 6th, 2018, 13:40
I am after "professional" looking laptop that can game as well. It has to be light weight as so easy to carry around. These are the two I am looking at for now.

Razer Blade 15
MS Surface Book 2 15 inch

Both of these comes with at least 1060 GTX which is pretty good for laptop I guess.

Anyone have any other recommendations please? Or have you used any of these and had any issues?

These are very expensiveness which sorts of put me off but I will worry about the money later!

https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-laptops/razer-blade
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/surf…k-2/tech-specs
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November 6th, 2018, 14:15
Aren't MS' surfaces overrated/overexpensive?
Anyway, I have no idea what are you looking for there. I couldn't choose what I'll have at work and am forced to use a laptop. If it wasn't others' call, I'd never pick one - jack of all trades and master of everything can only be a desktop PC.

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Unless you're looking for i9, this one currently with discount should do:
https://www.pcgamer.com/save-dollar4…-and-gtx-1070/
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That Razor looks very nice. That said, I would not get the 4K display model. That seems very silly, when you only have a 15 inch screen.
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November 6th, 2018, 14:27
Originally Posted by joxer View Post
Aren't MS' surfaces overrated/overexpensive?
Anyway, I have no idea what are you looking for there. I couldn't choose what I'll have at work and am forced to use a laptop. If it wasn't others' call, I'd never pick one - jack of all trades and master of everything can only be a desktop PC.

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Unless you're looking for i9, this one currently with discount should do:
https://www.pcgamer.com/save-dollar4…-and-gtx-1070/
At work I have a good desktop but this is for travelling to meet clients and playing games while I am stuck in the hotel room. All of these are overrated and expensive but the key is they are all less than 2Kg in weight. The laptop you linked is much better spec but its 3.7 Kg and thats big nono.

This is also not replacing my gaming PC at home but if its pretty decent then I would like to replace that as well with the laptop.

Since I am meeting clients it has to look business part as well This is why the MS Surface Book 2 is nice choice but its very expensive
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November 6th, 2018, 14:28
Originally Posted by Arkadia7 View Post
That Razor looks very nice. That said, I would not get the 4K display model. That seems very silly, when you only have a 15 inch screen.
I won't bother with 4K screen as well. I will stick with 1080p and 144hz screen from Razer. Again Razer is also bit expensive but still cheaper than MS.
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November 6th, 2018, 14:49
I would buy that Razor gaming laptop if it was me. I'm very impressed by it. My gaming laptop was even a little bit more expensive, but not nearly as sleek or slim or so lightweight, and that one also has a more powerful laptop card too. I would also get 16GB Ram if that is an option. That will be the minimum within a year or two in gaming. I bookmarked Razor and I will have to seriously consider them for my own new gaming laptop eventually in the future!

Update: I looked at the specs and it comes with 16gb Ram already. So that isn't an issue.
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November 6th, 2018, 16:08
I would recommend also looking at sites like pc specialist.
They tend to do similar spec laptops cheaper and you can customise them.

I was very happy with my old laptop and until I built my pc a month ago it kept working well for almost five years.

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November 6th, 2018, 16:24
I am a biased towards Lenovo.
Had a few of these, currently have two (an entry level Y520 desktop replacement and an small Thinkpad Edge), never had a single problem with these.

I am totally against Asus and Acer. Had a few of those, total and utter cheap (?) rubbish.
Bad build quality, extremely bad keyboard, breaks right at the end of the warranty with frightening accuracy.

I won't recommend hipster devices (=MS Surface, Samsung Galaxy Book, etc). Very cool to look at, but very limited in usage and extremely hard on your wallet. Don't get fooled by the specs.

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November 6th, 2018, 16:59
Lenovo P51 would be ideal.

However if you go to a Lenovo P71 it will have a Mobile PCI Express Module (MXM) that will even allow you to upgrade your GPU.

Most people here are going to recommend the cheaper consumer grade laptops, because they've never had experience with business machines, and don't understand the quality differences.
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November 6th, 2018, 17:23
Originally Posted by Caddy View Post
Lenovo P51 would be ideal.

However if you go to a Lenovo P71 it will have a Mobile PCI Express Module (MXM) that will even allow you to upgrade your GPU.

Most people here are going to recommend the cheaper consumer grade laptops, because they've never had experience with business machines, and don't understand the quality differences.
Thats not bad suggestion but the starting weight is 2.5kg and you are looking at 3kg with the power brick which is too much for travelling
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November 6th, 2018, 17:25
Originally Posted by duerer View Post
I am a biased towards Lenovo.
Had a few of these, currently have two (an entry level Y520 desktop replacement and an small Thinkpad Edge), never had a single problem with these.

I am totally against Asus and Acer. Had a few of those, total and utter cheap (?) rubbish.
Bad build quality, extremely bad keyboard, breaks right at the end of the warranty with frightening accuracy.

I won't recommend hipster devices (=MS Surface, Samsung Galaxy Book, etc). Very cool to look at, but very limited in usage and extremely hard on your wallet. Don't get fooled by the specs.

Hope this helps.
I am not interested in hipster devices but I want very light laptop which can do gaming. I am trying to keep the weight of the laptop down to 2kg or there about when you add power brick. MS Surface is bloody expensive but its one of the few which has 1060 GTX and weigh in about 1.9kg….
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November 6th, 2018, 17:26
Originally Posted by Pladio View Post
I would recommend also looking at sites like pc specialist.
They tend to do similar spec laptops cheaper and you can customise them.

I was very happy with my old laptop and until I built my pc a month ago it kept working well for almost five years.

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Ah thanks for reminding me of these guys and I did have look but it seems they are 2.5kg to 3kg and the quality of their screens are not good as well when you come down to thin laptops.
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November 6th, 2018, 17:53
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
I am not interested in hipster devices but I want very light laptop which can do gaming. I am trying to keep the weight of the laptop down to 2kg or there about when you add power brick. MS Surface is bloody expensive but its one of the few which has 1060 GTX and weigh in about 1.9kg….
On light laptops: the biggest problem here is the lack of proper cooling.
Gamer grade laptops are unusually heavy because of the extra cooling (aside the more robust build quality, blah-blah-blah)

A bad example: the Surface Pro has cutting-edge passive cooling (= no fans), which is totally ineffective under heavy game performance load. The result? The CPU/GPU will be constantly throttled back until the heat is manageable. That is, your shiny 1060 GTX will be performing at around 50%-70%, after about 2 minutes of Crysis gaming.

Light laptops are good for internet, office work and solitaire.
If you want to play some decent games as well, you have to give up on your weight limit.

OR: buy a lightweight work laptop and get a companion Nintendo Switch!
Zelda, Wasteland2, Skyrim, Doom, Diablo, etc on the go? HELL YEAH!
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November 6th, 2018, 18:01
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
Ah thanks for reminding me of these guys and I did have look but it seems they are 2.5kg to 3kg and the quality of their screens are not good as well when you come down to thin laptops.
I thought they did some light ones now too but maybe not with great specs.

Might want to call them up to see if you can customise more than the website.

If not then, I would say Dell has some good ones too.

I forgot their model name but one of them is below alien ware but has good specs and is cheaper too.
I can check later when I'm home if you want.

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November 6th, 2018, 18:03
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Thats not bad suggestion but the starting weight is 2.5kg and you are looking at 3kg with the power brick which is too much for travelling
Sorry, I meant to say P52, but ya those power bricks are a beast, since those laptops even have a Xeon option, and the Quadro 3200 is somewhere between a 1060 and a 1070 in performance. A Dell Precision would be in the same category, but also the same weight.

If you want something lighter, your original ideas of Razer and Surface would probably still be ideal.

If you don't mind going to a 1050 Ti, the Dell XPS is an option too. The build quality on those are really nice.

Another to consider is something from Origin PC
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November 6th, 2018, 18:34
Originally Posted by Caddy View Post
Sorry, I meant to say P52, but ya those power bricks are a beast, since those laptops even have a Xeon option, and the Quadro 3200 is somewhere between a 1060 and a 1070 in performance. A Dell Precision would be in the same category, but also the same weight.

If you want something lighter, your original ideas of Razer and Surface would probably still be ideal.

If you don't mind going to a 1050 Ti, the Dell XPS is an option too. The build quality on those are really nice.

Another to consider is something from Origin PC
Origin PC looks really nice, not heard of them before. Sadly they are US only and i don't see any options for them shipping to UK however I do plan to visit US end of this year or early next so that might be an option. Thanks!

I did look at the dell Xps lines and they are really nice as well but 1050 Ti is not all that great hence I sort of didn't include them in my list.
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November 6th, 2018, 18:35
Originally Posted by Pladio View Post
I thought they did some light ones now too but maybe not with great specs.

Might want to call them up to see if you can customise more than the website.

If not then, I would say Dell has some good ones too.

I forgot their model name but one of them is below alien ware but has good specs and is cheaper too.
I can check later when I'm home if you want.

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Yes please check if you have some time. Ideally I want one which is less than 2kg. thanks
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November 6th, 2018, 18:40
Originally Posted by duerer View Post
On light laptops: the biggest problem here is the lack of proper cooling.
Gamer grade laptops are unusually heavy because of the extra cooling (aside the more robust build quality, blah-blah-blah)

A bad example: the Surface Pro has cutting-edge passive cooling (= no fans), which is totally ineffective under heavy game performance load. The result? The CPU/GPU will be constantly throttled back until the heat is manageable. That is, your shiny 1060 GTX will be performing at around 50%-70%, after about 2 minutes of Crysis gaming.

Light laptops are good for internet, office work and solitaire.
If you want to play some decent games as well, you have to give up on your weight limit.

OR: buy a lightweight work laptop and get a companion Nintendo Switch!
Zelda, Wasteland2, Skyrim, Doom, Diablo, etc on the go? HELL YEAH!
Yes you are right cooling is an issue but I have seen reviews and people are really happy with MS SB 2 as gaming device. Many are reporting 60FPS on many AAA games like Assassin Creed Odyssey etc at medium setting etc. Also the Razer is even better and 60 - 100 FPS+ at high setting etc. So it is possible to do high quality gaming on these.

I actually did thought about getting lightweight work laptop like Surface pro and then get Switch but I play MMOs and don't want to miss any raids when I am away for work
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November 6th, 2018, 18:48
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
Origin PC looks really nice, not heard of them before. Sadly they are US only and i don't see any options for them shipping to UK however I do plan to visit US end of this year or early next so that might be an option. Thanks!

I did look at the dell Xps lines and they are really nice as well but 1050 Ti is not all that great hence I sort of didn't include them in my list.
Ya i'm really hoping they eventually come with a 1060 (or equivalent) option in the XPS, or the T480
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November 6th, 2018, 20:16
Originally Posted by lostforever View Post
Yes please check if you have some time. Ideally I want one which is less than 2kg. thanks
Hey
I had a quick look and it's the XPS 15. They're quite expensive too but might just give you another alternative.
They have a few different configurations.


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