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DArtagnan
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Yes, the ability is called taunt. Again, there's no aggro factor in D&D - and that's a GOOD thing in my mind.
That's a completely subjective observation that has nothing to do with the ability's presence in itself. You can taunt in D&D/NWN - and whether you like the implementation or not is completely irrelevant here.
Charge would be a good comparitive power, because it knocks people back or down - but are you seriously taking a single named power in DA:O and claiming that because that one ability isn't present in NWN in the same form, that somehow makes the HUGE diversity advantage non-existant?
I said MOST of the powers were implemented in one way or the other. There's a feat called knockdown available as a general feat to every one that knocks people down.
It wasn't formalized.
But you're deliberately ignoring what it's about anyway, so what's the point?
Again, do you think it's hard for anyone to take a number of feats or spells from NWN and find them missing from DA:O?
That's completely incidental and beside the point. The point isn't even the combined amount of skills/feats/spells/powers either - even though I think it's a bit comical that you seem to think DA:O is the victor here.
Just for jolly, should we talk about spells implemented in NWN2 (with just the first expansion - vs DA:O + Awakenings)? There are around 300 (or more) with MotB - versus, what, ~90-100 (at most) in total with all prestige classes in DA:O?
Those are SPELLS - not class feats or inherent features. Meaning, that's just a single aspect of powers available to whatever class combination you choose. In DA:O that's their entire breadth of available powers to the SINGLE Mage class in the game. I'm sorry, but your claim is a joke - and it's not even relevant to the point.
Again, this is and ALWAYS was about CLASS DIVERSITY. Do you even know what that means? It seems you don't.
It's about HOW many different classes you can create, and how many different ways you can build the same class, and then with NWN how many viable combinations of multiclasses you can come up with.
It's about the class SYSTEM and not the amount of toys available. The point is that you have an EXTREMELY limited amount of fighters and rogues in DA:O - which means that even if they had a 1000 powers, you'd still have experienced them all in the first playthrough, because they're all available and there's no decision making. You just pick a "type" of fighter or rogue - and in which order you want to have all your skills. You don't consider what KIND of skills your fighter will use, because you know you'll end up with every single 2-handed power anyway (if you go 2-handed).
THAT's the issue.
Why don't you take a look at the link below. You'll find a tiny subset of "epic builds" avaliable in NWN. Try to read the descriptions and try to realise how different those characters were built, and how different their approach to combat is.
Try to say with a straight face that DA:O can come up with anything in terms of character builds to approach that kind of diversity.
http://nwn.bioware.com/underdark/character_builds.html
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