What I've Been Watching: The Catch-All Film Thread

Watched Spectre, it has to be one of the worst Bond movies I have seen so far...

what a disappointment! I can't think of anything that was good with it... well except the explosions special effects were quite ok.
 
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This is probably the best Youtube review I've seen so far:



It's not really a rant, just a pretty good review that sums up a lot of the points quite well.

It's quite difficult ordering the Bonds objectively by quality as people tend to get very polarised on very specific issues, like many think Moonraker is one of the worst while Moonraker was record-breaking with its box office and is actually one of the most fun installments from an entertainment (but not purist) perspective. Moonraker is like watching Austin Powers and a serious Bond movie at the same time!

My least favourite is someone else's top favourite and there's very few Bonds that are universally loved/hated by all, though Die Another Day seems to be the one people meme-reference for a bad Bond movie. I wasn't 'horrified' by Die Another Day.

So by saying this is one of the worst, that's still lumping it in with probably 10 other Bond movies in other people's mind, probably safer to say it doesn't/won't make many people's top 5 Bond movie lists.

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Saw some interesting movies recently.

1st up was a long overdue rewatching of the Godfather trilogy. Wow, so many years since I'd seen these it was like watching them fresh. The first two do indeed go quite well together, part two being both a prequel and a sequel, a stylistic method still rare even to this day and most likely why people were happy with the two parts representing the trilogy.

After watching part 3 I was slightly at a loss as to why the movie was hated on so much. I was tempted to start a thread asking why. However, there's lots of opinions already on the web as to why this is the case and after taking in those opinions I could see why. It's kind of an ok average movie in abstraction, but a bit of a stretch in aspect of being a sequel. Weirdly for me, I actually had more 'issues' watching part 2, though I can't remember what those were now. All in all it's a good day spent watching them all IMO.

Then I saw one of Oliver Stone's earliest beloved creations Salvador about the troubles in El Slavador in the late 70s early 80s starring James Woods and James Bulushi. It starts off fairly crappy, like a poor Cheech and Chong movie but gradually escalates into a monumental human tragedy. Wood's performance in particular is mesmerising. It's one of those movies that makes you understand why the Oscars are given to certain movies while others are just popcorn.

Unfortunately for this movie, it was released the same year as another Oliver Stone classic, Platoon and it was Platoon that gobbled up all the Oscars that year leaving the, IMO, superior Salvador somewhat in the shadows of popular movie history recognition. I remember seeing Platoon at the time and not being really taken by it, most of it feeling forced and designed for Oscars rather than clutching at reality. Salvador comes across as a better movie to me because it really does feel genuine, even when it's obviously making purely for the movie statements. I've never been a great fan of Stone, his statements always feeling too ham-fisted, but this movie is now in my personal list of classics.

Last night I saw The Mission, another Oscar gobbler from the 80s, and, boy, this was a great movie. The entire premise was too much of a borefest concept for me to see at the time, it's not by any means a child's movie, but now that adulthood has finally set in it's easy to see why this movie is so great. Top billing goes to Robert De Niro, but he's actually about the third character of importance after the amazing performances of Jeremy Irons and Ray McAnally, two Catholics in emotional and philosophical turmoil over the affairs of indigenous South American tribesmen facing the horrors of Spanish and Portuguese expansion.

On top of the quality script, performances, subject matter and setting there's even a top-of-class musical score by Ennio Morricone - what more could you ask for. Like Salvador, this movie feels real, ball-breakingly real and there's only one scene in the entire movie which feels like a movie contrivance. I've read some negativity about the movie, criticising it's racial premise that the Catholics are somehow providing perfect beauty and that the movie is just Catholic propaganda. From this perspective it's true, we don't see any negative aspects of Jesuit involvement in SA and it could come across as a whiteman knows best movie, but this belies the universal human aspects of the story. Like Salvador ths movie is just about human beings having their humanity challenged by humans without humanity, and in that respect the fact that it's Catholics instead of the crew of the Enterprise makes no difference in my books.

So a whole batch of They Don't Make 'Em Like That Anymore movies (though they probably do, we just missed the hype under the weight of normal hype) that are all right up there as masterpieces of the format that you'd do a lot worse than taking the time to watch.

I also just saw Cosmopolis. This is a weird one, not for the easily angered. It's directed by David Cronenberg and stars Twighlight's Robert Pattinson, now there's a mix to throw the hate crowd into a pool of confused mush. Well, to be honest, the movie is a confused mush anyway. It's actually supposed to be a confused mush, that's it's whole point. It's kind of like a cross between the third Matrix movie (the talking aspect, not the action aspect) and a David Lynch movie with sprinklings of a Terry Gilliam movie. Think Matrix conversations, Brazil's characters and Blue Velvet's abstract extremity.

A Billionaire whizz kid goes on a road movie through the traffic jams of a large city inside a state of the art limousine, the people and events he encounters being a confusing plot of sub-reality and fantasy guided by a sense of modern normality. I'll be honest, I didn't understand half of what was happening, but I'll also be honest and say that, for the most part, I didn't entirely care what was happening. It's one of those movies of the type I used to watch after 10pm while getting myself in the mood for sleep or possibly slightly stoned as a teenager and just enjoy the pleasures of riding the atmosphere of a weird movie, probably attaching my own meaning to the presented abstractions alongside taking in tidbits of the movie's more obvious messages. One of those movies that's more atmosphere than coherence. Worth a view if you like the bizzare as it's beautifully shot and put together, totally avoid if you can't bare not understanding what's going on.
 
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Terminator 1 and 2 are classics, obviously. I found T3 to be a solid Action movie too, AFAIK. Didn't see T4. Now I watched Terminator Genisys and.. yeah. It was very disappointing. Miscast main actors, forgettable soundtrack, no new ideas. Overall uninspired. For all its budget it really felt like a mediocre, small B-movie. I give it 6/10, maybe a little less.
 
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I watch a lot of movies, I don't sleep much these days. Though haven't watched anything worth talking about.
 
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I watch a lot of movies, I don't sleep much these days. Though haven't watched anything worth talking about.

Stop watching mainstream overhyped and overadvertised nonsense.
Just start searching for titles you've never heard of from anyone that by synopsis might be good. You'll be amazed how many gems are there to "collect".
And don't be concentrated on just Hollywood or Bollywood or HongKong or something. Wide the area to whole planet.

Counter: Did I miss anything for not watching Titanic and not a single Fast and Furious sequel of them seven? And wouldn't anyone's time be better spent on Candy Crush Saga instead of Transformers movies?
 
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Stop watching mainstream overhyped and overadvertised nonsense.

Trust me I don't, while last year I could find a ton of great odd movies this year just seems to be lacking.

I will watch almost anything ....
 
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If what you say is true, they'll have problems on Razzies. :D
Too many titles to choose from. Maybe they should go monthly awards for this year.
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I watch a lot of movies, I don't sleep much these days. Though haven't watched anything worth talking about.

I don't know if you mean in the cinema or if you mean just any movies, but if you haven't seen them yet then you could try:

A Town Like Alice (1956) - A predominantly female cast, set in Malaya during WW2, black and white, a cast of Malays, British, Australian, Japanese, all of which are portrayed with respect and nuance rather than pure stereotype, a great story which combines themes similar to both The Shawshank Redemption and Casablanca inside a road movie, based off a book which is a fictionalised accounting of something that really happened. Supplies a whole gamut of emotions without ever being over-the-top.

Casshern (2004) - To fulfill your desire for "odd", this is a wonderfully bat-shit crazy live action movie from Japan based off of a 1973 anime where atmosphere and cinematography dominate a rather complex and surreal story that is part science fiction and part super hero. Mad scientists, capes, epic locations, massively over-the-top action scenes and more eye candy than Willy Wonker's chocolate factory. Plot's a bit of a clusterfuck though, though I can't say I minded too much.
 
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I remember Casshern title - it was one of those movies that polarized the audience.
Some hated it's guts calling it the worst movie ever, some claimed it's a genuine and unique masterpiece.
And I... Not knowing who's telling the truth... Dodged it.

Perhaps I should give it a try. If I find it anywhere.
 
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Yes, it can produce a total of two responses that are the same but with polar opposite reactions: a) Sit there open mouthed at the sheer incomprehensibility or b) Sit there open mouthed at the sheer awesomeness and visual pleasure.

I've never seen anything quite like it either before or since, it's like someone gave Terry Gilliam's and Peter Greenaway's bastard child completely free artistic and financial freedom to make a science fiction super-hero movie:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xeis94QNB0

Though the main theme is easy enough to pick-up on and very emotive, you have a narrative that messes around with time without anyone ever caring whether the audience knows where each scene is supposed to fit in the story combined with such heavy use of metaphore that probably only a handful of people can fully understand what each reference is supposed to relate to. But it doesn't matter because everything else is just so dominating, from the costumes to the music and from the set design to staggering set-pieces. The characters are all fascinating beyond words and whether they are ugly as all hell or stunningly gorgeous you can root for and relate to them all.

I'd recommend it to anyone, but with the proviso that they treat it like watching a moving art gallery rather than a narrative A to B regular movie.

I bought it many years ago in a specialist DVD/music bricks and mortar shop, only selling it a couple of years ago in a big space clear-out (and regretted it, which I knew I would). If you can't find it digitally then places like ebay and amazon are still good relevant places.
 
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Hubby bought me Casshern for a birthday and I really liked it. Breathtaking visuals. The story is nothing extraordinary but it's not bad, either.
 
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Addition: Apparently there's a 117 min version and a 141 min version, the badly edited version being the USA DVD version, which might also help explain a lot of negative USA reactions.
 
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That could easily be the cause. Weinstein does cut movies distributed in regions outside their country of origin, heavily, probably used scissors here too.
 
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I actually saw a movie over the weekend. In a theater, no less.

The Martian. Enjoyed it quite a bit. Damon's smarminess sort of turned me off at times, but mostly he made me feel inadequate, since he was so smart. ;)

Some very good hard science fiction in there. Also a lot of not believable details, but overall a cool emotional thrill ride. I think they did the surface of Mars really well, but the red dust would get everywhere. Those nice white suits? Not realistic.

Also dust storms. Not even close to being violent. Many of our rovers have survived them just fine. Just the lack of sunshine is dangerous.
 
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