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September 25th, 2021, 00:42
Thanks Purple! Lol well guess I should not be surprised. If they ever released a game I would stay well clear of it.
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September 25th, 2021, 00:46
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What was the last thing you did before this?
You are supposed to be attacked by balor BEFORE you go to abyss city, not after you return from it.
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I didn't have issue with Galfrey at all, maybe because I was an Angel mythic?
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September 25th, 2021, 00:55
If you go for the ML with an animal companion does the animal level up to 40 with you? Would you have to pick a second class that also has an animal? or would the animal still be viable at 20?

I could do ranger/druid or ranger/sacred huntsman/rogue (4 levels or so) I was thinking.
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September 25th, 2021, 01:14
One could say that maybe niche RPG sites are not any valuable authority to decide what are the standards of a good RPG, even if the RPG itself is niche. Imagine the shock.
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September 25th, 2021, 01:25
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September 25th, 2021, 01:28
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You monster!!!

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September 25th, 2021, 02:28
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No. I promised not to do it and kept the promise.
Besides… What you experienced there I experienced much later in the game.

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I didn't have issue with Galfrey at all, maybe because I was an Angel mythic?
But you did.
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Not much of a spoiler, rather correction of a rumor.
Irabeth can die in the game.
This does not depend anyhow on the queen being a bi… being unfair towards MC.
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September 25th, 2021, 03:20
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But you did.
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Not much of a spoiler, rather correction of a rumor.
Irabeth can die in the game.
This does not depend anyhow on the queen being a bi… being unfair towards MC.
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September 25th, 2021, 08:12
Well it is 2am and I just finished. I couldn't wait any longer and drove the battle home to the end. I am overall very happy with everything and how it turned out. I got no bad endings for anyone. Also, for which I am very thankful for, no bugged endings - they were all accurate and reflected all my choices. They only really failed quest that was messed up somewhat was Hilor and I consider that a side quest. I know I was lucky in this regard though. It might have helped that I didn't romance and I never did a respec.

Minor vague spoilers but they do touch on the end without too much specifics:

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The Azata end was great and at a certain turning point I decided to stick around versus traveling.

Now for a much bigger spoiler which no one should be reading unless they finished the game:

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Superb game and have to say some of the best 144 hours of gaming I have had in a very long time … and I am already planning out my next play through

But first I need to get a little sleep :yawn:
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September 25th, 2021, 08:26
Originally Posted by wolfgrimdark View Post
Minor vague spoilers but they do touch on the end without too much specifics:

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Now for a much bigger spoiler which no one should be reading unless they finished the game:

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Not necessarily true, imo.

Mega spoiler ahead - don't read if you haven't finished the game:

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September 25th, 2021, 08:30
@joxer - yeah, I did all that stuff with Galfrey before hand - met her in front of Fane (waited for her to arrive, instead of going in Azata-style), fought everything, killed the Balor, then had her speechifying, went into Abyss with the big Angel. So all that was fine. But I saw that there was mention of some potential Galfrey romance (not at all interested) dialog not triggering, and that they had patched that. But in my case, that bit of dialog - when she arrives, but before you meet outside the Fane - seems to be triggering way too late. I assume it is because I was travelling overland and when I was notified she had arrived, when straight to the Drezen courtyard so we could enter Fane.

Yeah, the Balor I'm talking about is way worse - bloodrager Balor, seemed to have 6 or 7 attacks a round, which couldn't miss and did 50 to 70hp damage. Maybe it's some later boss that's in the wrong place hopefylly he stays dead
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September 25th, 2021, 11:43
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You monster!!!

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From the story, it's clear that we should not try unless we have a death wish. Which makes it too tempting. I wouldn't do that to him though.
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September 25th, 2021, 11:47
Galfrey's romance… there's a pic of her with/without potion in the art book. But to each their own.
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September 25th, 2021, 16:19
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Galfrey's romance€ there's a pic of her with/without potion in the art book. But to each their own.
In the awsome/horrible companions thread, I've already stated that the queen is such a piece of work I doubt she could win the war without MC.
Classic selfcentered tyrant hiding behind carefully constructed sentences and words. I bet if a psychologist played this the diagnose would be paranoid schizophrenia, sadly there are no meds for treatment in the setting so she just can't get better.

At one moment in the game you will get an option to declare independance or not.
I didn't go independent - the reward to remain loyal to the queen seemed more beneficial as that way you get a trinket that at the time looks as the only possibility to pass all superhigh knowledge/lore checks needed to read the whole of Lexicon.
It's not the only way however, you'll discover that later.

This is a hint:
If you don't want to remain loyal, do not overthink it, feel free go independant if you don't want to suffer consequences of the lousy leader instead of your own choices. Do not worry, independancy doesn't lock you out of anything.

Queen romance you say? Depends on your MC's story and character, I wrote there why and when that romance is definetly the best choice.
Regardless of alignment and myth path you took.

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Without quoting a few previous spoilers.

On Nenio/Enigma/puzzles.
I did all of those properly in my first Azata playthorugh, but now I'm on Trickster.
In this replay there is no reason not to "abuse" dimension door wherever possible. I don't know if it is possible or is locked out like in treant dungeon puzzle, I'll definetly write it when reach the place.

On Azata path.
It wasn't an easy choice for me, with what I want in the first playthrough the appropriate picks were either azata or lich. Not any of others.
What I want to say by picking azata you just cannot fail. It's fun by itself looking on "we're all high" aesthetics, you get very handy powers against hard optional bosses, the pet dragon is something you didn't know you desperately need till you saw it and crusade archers azata unlocks are brilliant. Okay okay, all archers are brilliant, but still.

To cut things short, if you are not quite sure what to pick as your first myth path, go with Azata.

Definetly don't go trickster as your first. Awsome on paper and awsome jokes, but some things can make your life miserable if it's your first playthrough. The game will try prank the prankster, not just once.
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September 25th, 2021, 16:26
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Not necessarily true, imo.

Mega spoiler ahead - don't read if you haven't finished the game:

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Thanks Purple and aye I understand, however … EVEN BIGGER END GAME SPOILERS AHEAD …

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September 25th, 2021, 16:38
From what I've read, the secret ending is not available to all myth paths.
Maybe it's a bug, but if is not, that's something I like as the most horrible path can't get that ending.
Not saying evil paths are not getting it, but the one you planned to take just because you like CW's show "DC Legends of Tomorrow" and such title sounds fancy.
Kidding.

I did not get that ending in my first playthrough. I had everything set for MC, not for others though - but I missed the deadline.
It's timed. There is a time&date window, if you don't do it exactly then, you may forgeddit.
Well I didn't know that and that's what I don't like.
Timers from phonegames and mmos do not belong in singleplayer PC games.

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Forgot…
I won't be writing the complete crusade screenshots thing "hellknighs suck".
The bug where I couldn't get better units made all those pics strange and useless in postpatch playthroughs.
One could still draw a conclusion - if the starter units can beat so many demon armies, of course upgraded can do too.
But upgraded units efficiency was never a point nor my intention, I just wanted people to see that HK are avoidware trash.

Instead, I will rework it differently.
HK or not HK, there are generals related things we didn't talk about much.
I did mention the logic behind mage general and elf archer general, but didn't write some stuff in detail.
Well now I have some pics and besides I wrote down some notes so expect a crusade ch2/ch3 noHK () strategical thread later or tomorrow.

Not sure if I'll do ch5 crusade thread though, I'm not seeing anyone having problems with it there.
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September 25th, 2021, 17:19
@joxer: From what I know not all paths can get the secret ending but I don't think it has to do with alignment and has more to do with the nature of the path. It is also timed (ick) and has other special requirements but then I guess that is the point of secret endings in games as C2077 and PK also had similar things.

Also from what I understand getting the secret ending seems more evil to me, for reasons I put at the end of my spoiler tag. I would never be comfortable doing it with a good character.

EDIT: What I have spent over an hour searching on, but can't find, is just what exactly happens with the secret ending. Tons of places tell you how to get it but not what happens, exactly, when you do. That is what I want to know.

EDIT 2: Course after that I found an obscure reddit thread that mentioned at least two things … well one sentence which only gave me a tiny bit more insight but better than nothing. Also suggested my feeling about its morality are accurate.
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September 25th, 2021, 17:31
Well, I think I just like making builds. Once I actually started playing a while in Chapter 1, I just got bored. It's the "combat takes too long" problem with party-based games and my lack of focus. I need 90%+ of combats to last 30 seconds or less and you just can't do that with 6 people fighting battles.

Probably the only way I could ever finish a pathfinder game would be to create a level 20 sorcerer and gob-stomp the battles. I spent 4 hours clearing the marketplace map and I just haven't had the energy to load the game again. I have created a few more characters, but never even loaded the prologue up after that first real map.

All of that said, I sure love the character building in the beginning. I played nearly a 100 hours and all of that was creating characters and playing the prologue/tutorial dungeon.
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September 25th, 2021, 17:35
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from what I understand getting the secret ending seems more evil to me
It might seem evil to you, but I don't see it evil toward your companions, quite the opposite.
Besides, that way you make sure you don't see the queen ever again. If she survived the dragon, I got lucky in my first playthrough where she died.
I won't be hinting why that happened as her death is IMO a desirable outcome.

What exactly happens in the secret ending I don't know either. Yet.
I'm trying to get it with trickster patch because I botched it with azata (overslept the date so it wasn't at the table any more ).
Will write as a spoiler when I see the whole of it because this time I know it's not just one… bolt thing… I need.
If I don't bork it somehow again.
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Well, I think I just like making builds.

Probably the only way I could ever finish a pathfinder game would be to create a level 20 sorcerer and gob-stomp the battles.
See this is where a NPC named Hilor comes to the rescue.
Talk to him and then you can respec.

Level 20 rogue who wants to be something else?
Respec to level 20 deadly mistress of doom.
All you need to do is to reach level 20. And you can't reach it by replaying market.
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September 25th, 2021, 19:04
@joxer - From this post the year may not matter:

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