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Oh, the old "it's fantasy - so human beings don't have to behave like human beings" :) Writer favoritism is fine and unavoidable - but if it's not tempered, it kinda loses its power over me. I can deal with heroes and "superhuman" characters if the setting was otherwise established like that, as in LotR or Star Wars. But GoT is trying to come off as a plausible medieval setting - with a bit of magic thrown in. Martin has said as much himself, I believe. But that's ok, we don't have to agree. I like Tyrion, because how could you not? :) But I would have liked him more with a less obvious approach.

No, that's not quite what I said, but that's ok. :)

I just don't see him as being totally implausible, but it's fine if you do. I also don't see his character as being overly dominant as you seem to be implying. There have been some episodes where he was a central figure, but then there have been others where he was barely featured at all. One thing GoT has been very good at (usually) is distributing focus equally among the central figures of the story.

As far as Got being a "plausible medieval setting - with a bit of magic thrown in", well…I think that statement speaks for itself. :)
 
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No, that's not quite what I said, but that's ok. :)

I just don't see him as being totally implausible, but it's fine if you do. I also don't see his character as being overly dominant as you seem to be implying. There have been some episodes where he was a central figure, but then there have been others where he was barely featured at all. One thing GoT has been very good at (usually) is distributing focus equally among the central figures of the story.

As far as Got being a "plausible medieval setting - with a bit of magic thrown in", well…I think that statement speaks for itself. :)
I don't think I've called him dominant - AFAIK. Well, he does get a lot of attention, but that's not really my problem with him. You seem to agree he's a bit much - so I doubt there's much left to discuss. I don't personally think of magic as part of human behavior - so we probably differ there. If a setting is otherwise trying to be plausible - I think of magic as something that's just been added to a world, rather than changing how human beings behave. Otherwise, it'd be very hard to relate to. In that same way, I can watch a show like Star Trek and think of aliens and technology as "flavor" - but not something that necessarily changes our nature.

It might be relevant to add that I watch almost anything primarily because of characters, and because I'm very passionate about trying to make sense of human beings. So, I might notice things about characters more than people who watch for other reasons.

I can enjoy fantasies and implausible characters fine, but I'll always be more engaged when the whole thing is consistent and relevant to myself in some way. I always try to identify with people - whether heroes or villains. When I find it impossible, I automatically lose some of my interest.
 
I don't think I've called him dominant - AFAIK. Well, he does get a lot of attention, but that's not really my problem with him. You seem to agree he's a bit much - so I doubt there's much left to discuss. I don't personally think of magic as part of human behavior - so we probably differ there. If a setting is otherwise trying to be plausible - I think of magic as something that's just been added to a world, rather than changing how human beings behave. Otherwise, it'd be very hard to relate to. In that same way, I can watch a show like Star Trek and think of aliens and technology as "flavor" - but not something that necessarily changes our nature.

It might be relevant to add that I watch almost anything primarily because of characters, and because I'm very passionate about trying to make sense of human beings. So, I might notice things about characters more than people who watch for other reasons.

I can enjoy fantasies and implausible characters fine, but I'll always be more engaged when the whole thing is consistent and relevant to myself in some way. I always try to identify with people - whether heroes or villains. When I find it impossible, I automatically lose some of my interest.

I don't know of anyone who thinks of magic as part of human behavior. The issue I have is that the presence of something like magic would undoubtedly change too many things for us to assume what plausible behavior would actually be in such a setting.

I don't think we should drag this on any further though. At least not in this thread. :)
 
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I don't know of anyone who thinks of magic as part of human behavior. The issue I have is that the presence of something like magic would undoubtably change too many things for us to assume what plausible behavior would actually be in such a setting.

I have to say I struggle to see how magic as it's presented in GoT would change basic human nature. But I guess that's just something we'll have to differ on.
I don't think we should drag this on any further though. At least not in this thread.

Agreed :)
 
I like Jamie, but I don't think he's a very plausible character. Not unlike Tyrion :)

I can't make sense of him casually throwing a child out of a window and joking about it - and then suddenly become this regretful good guy. That arc feels off in a big way.

That bother's me as well. But perhaps the trauma of getting his hand cutoff might change him. Can't say I have any real world experience with that top deny that as being implausible.

Edit: Sorry for the spoiler tags not working on tapatalk, but I never liked tapatalk to begin with. Yet another reason not to use it…
 
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Tapatalk is what? I also don't use it whatever that may be.

Anyway…
Will someone please explain to me why The Dresden Files series got cancelled:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486657/
Just finished watching it. Why I gave it a shot? In an episode Claudia Black appears. Yes, it's the best episode of them 12, but the rest of the show, while cheesy and cheapy, is not nearly as bad as some say, it had a potential!
 
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Oh I do use phone to read the forum sometimes, but with chrome not some god knows doing what amount of NSA spying application.

Happens when I'm out on a coffee and still sitting alone… Means, rarely.
Rarely alone. On a coffee at least twice a day. :)
 
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with chrome not some god knows doing what amount of NSA spying application.

Um, seriously? Given that Google's entire business model is harvesting your private data regardless of settings, illegally breaking other browser settings, tracking you everywhere and so on ... um, yeah, Google.
 
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Yea, google.
All data it harvested from me is my real name, my phone number and is keeping statistics on which type of porn I'm visiting a lot without realizing that I might be interested into more kinkier stuff - if it was available. :D
If google's data harvest model is our best hope to be saved from terrorists, god help us.

Now seriously. Top EU court was clear. Google can't hold every single collected data if you ask them to remove it. And I live in EU, so there. :)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-request-of-ordinary-individuals-9360707.html
 
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Tapatalk is what? I also don't use it whatever that may be.

Anyway…
Will someone please explain to me why The Dresden Files series got cancelled:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486657/
Just finished watching it. Why I gave it a shot? In an episode Claudia Black appears. Yes, it's the best episode of them 12, but the rest of the show, while cheesy and cheapy, is not nearly as bad as some say, it had a potential!
I watched it in Netflix and loved it too.
 
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Marvel Agents of Shield ended. There will be another season, I'm not sure I'll watch it, the first season was too mediocre for my taste and the little time I have on me I want to spend only on above average material.
IMO if you didn't watch it, don't bother. Wait to see if the next season gets better.



If you checked the list of cancelled/renewed/starting shows on certain networks, you may spot that this fall there will be another comics based show: Constantine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPE2oBnzROY

There was already a movie with Keanu Reeves, very good one, even if you've never seen any Hellblazer comic, you can enjoy the movie. Here's the trailer of that one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivee8cm55Ao

But in the trailer for upcoming series I don't see the most important thing.

Constantine smokes like a chimney. It's a crucial part of his character. If it's removed from the series as the trailer suggests, I'm not going to watch it. As I've said above, I'm not interested into mediocrity and if they're dumbing down an above average comic, they can go sell that crap to their mother.
 
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I've never seen the movies or know anything about the comics but how can him smoking or not smoking make any difference in the quality of them? It would seem to be a trivial detail to me.
 
I've never seen the movies or know anything about the comics but how can him smoking or not smoking make any difference in the quality of them? It would seem to be a trivial detail to me.

I agree. If the series is good/entertaining, I don't care if the character deviates in unimportant ways from the comics source, and smoking seems to me unimportant, unless the character shoots laser rays from his cigarettes?
 
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I said it's the crucial part of his character.
Which reminds me. I'm off to take a smoke break.
 
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