Since he was speaking in such absolutes, it's like telling a skyscraper architect that he/she can't tell me that I'm not qualified to have an opinion on how a skyscraper should be built. To use your words: patently ridiculous.
Neither of which means the game wasn't great but I did find my initial great enthusiasm was a little ameliorated and I haven't finished the game because my attention was caught by other stuff.
Certainly ... and the moment you kill Ryan is cited as the real milestone where the developers appear to have lost the handle on the narrative to an extent.On my second play-through, what particularly struck me was that the game flopped towards the end. It hit its high point at Sander Cohen, soldiered on nicely enough until the end of Hephaestus Core, and then descended into filler -- it didn't look as interesting, sound as interesting, or certainly play as interesting as anything up to then.
Wow, what a useless thread this has turned out to be, it's the same 3-4 idiots just trying to counter-point each other over and over again.
If you didn't like Bioshock then don't f***ing play it again, it's that simple.
I think what he is referring to is the fact that we let our discussion of the game at hand get sidetracked - I reacted to a quote out of context and some other things that triggered reactions from other threads on other forums ... and made some heated remarks and an inappropriate and contextually incorrect ad hominem remark. Certainly I wasn't the only one, and there were personal attacks in there, but the bottom line is that you were amongst those participating in the thread getting flung afar ... regardless of the fact that it is about the game in question.Especially when it's directly related to a game in a thread about that game.
To put it more succinctly: the choice of harvesting or saving Little Sisters does not go any deeper than the emotionally heart-wrenching scene involved in it. It's nothing beyond that; it's not meaningful for the story, it's not meaningful for the PC, it's not meaningful for the game's mechanics, and it is in the end presented in a completely unrealistic dichotomy of extreme evil and extreme good.
I don't think anybody thinks it's a bad game. A score of 8.2 is pretty decent, and it still has one of the best game stories for quite some time (imo).
Really? Wow, from that it sounds like you played a different game than me. Perhaps that is where we come to divergent opinions. I found it central to the entire story - the Little Sister is practically the very core of the story! You have a place that has founded itself on advancement for its' own sake, free from the tethers of morality and ethics. In a 'normal' society, who are those fundamental to every protection and action? Children. In Ryan's society, those same children have been found to be effective tools to use in the advancement of the society free of moral implications. Therefore the Little Sisters form the basis of the moral struggle between the player and the society, and the decision to harvest or not plays into that struggle. Is the end 'black or white'? Sure, but I have seen that as similar to saying "you can't be 'kind of' a cannibal'.
I think what he is referring to is the fact that we let our discussion of the game at hand get sidetracked - I reacted to a quote out of context and some other things that triggered reactions from other threads on other forums ... and made some heated remarks and an inappropriate and contextually incorrect ad hominem remark. Certainly I wasn't the only one, and there were personal attacks in there, but the bottom line is that you were amongst those participating in the thread getting flung afar ... regardless of the fact that it is about the game in question.
Maybe you missed me last post in this thread. I'll copy and paste for you.
"I despise shooters. I've never beat any and played a couple minutes of a couple of them. And, because of all the hype, I downloaded the demo of Bioshock. I have basically zero shooter experience, and I blew through the demo like a Greek god of Awesome. If this game was a Greek god it would be the god of easyness, sloth, and stupid. The score of this game should be a 4 out of 100, and that 4 being granted because of the fancy smancy graphics and the fact that it ran."
I'm soebody and I think it's a horrible, petty, and childish game. It was created soley to be an insult and a slap in the face to people that fit one of the following criteria: are older than nine, have at least a 3rd grade education, have at least one testicle, bodies that produce even the slightest amount of testosterone, or are not somehow mentally handicapable.
A score of more than 10% out of 100 is an atrocity and speaks volumes of the piss poor state of the gaming market. May God have mercy on all your souls.
I think you are somebody that can be safely ingored, i.e. a non-entity, so woges point stands
LIES!!!! Flithy, monkey lies. My mother would beg to differ. She says I'm somebody and very special, and she also said that I just might be the best kisser she has had the pleasure of necking with. And I'm not too shabby in the old sack BTW. Yours lies ment to hurt me and undermine my truth have not worked, because I'm rubber and you, sir, are glue. So whatever you say to me bounces off and sticks to you. Chew on that a little, mr. meany-pants!!!!
Why don't you just use your registered forum name, roqua?
But thanks for making fun of the names of my people.
you're still not grasping the fact
Wait, weren't you complaining about having someone question the validity of your opinion yesterday?
I disagree with you on everything related to the Little Sisters, apparently. That is fine, it is an opinion related to a segment of a game - it doesn't make me wrong and you right however, unless that is so important to you.