You are the one here who was making a claim to begin with. That D3 is some kind failure to the majority. I say that it's not.
now you are making it too easy for yourself (also, putting words in my mouth, which you claim I do to you…). I agree that it is not a failure for the majority, never claimed otherwise.
I said there is a significant percentage of players that was disappointed. I'd also argue that this is the core player base but readily admit that I have no proof.
Also, you make the claim that the game is good and that the 2nd expansion being dropped has nothing to do with disappointment in D3. That too is a claim, care to back that up in any way ?
You don't have to agree, but nothing you've said really supports what you're saying while simply using the numbers and common sense would seem to indicate you're wrong.
not really, common sense dictates that there would have been a 2nd expansion if everything had gone according to plan / expectations. So expectations were not met.
It shows that those particular people were disappointed. Nothing more. Are you trying to suggest that the majority of people who played the game posted a review on Metacritic? It only takes a quick look to see that that's obviously not the case.
so you already know that I am not suggesting that. However the score is usually pretty similar to the 'professional' reviewer score and can be used to extrapolate to the playerbase - that is the whole point, whether metacritic or rotten tomatoes or other sites
I agree that here D3 was dragged down, 4.1 is not a fair rate, but it shows that there is a significant enough percentage that was disappointed by the game - and this is not just the 3000 or however many people that actually voted.
Again…common sense would be useful here for you. There are less than 9500 reviews there out of 10+ Million people who have the game. That's less than 0.5% of the player base making it basically useless for any kind of judgment.
I fail to see you applying common sense. Right now you argue that if 10000 people voted, this tells you nothing about a game that was bought by 10M people. All it tells you is that what those 10000 people think.
While this is true on a very fundamental level, you ignore the fact that these kinds of scores are used all the time to extrapolate to the entire userbase / population and are generally a lot more accurate than you just now give them credit for. So it does represent more than just the opinion of a negligible number of users.
If you seriously want to argue this, then any review by anyone, professional or user, can be dismissed for any game and everything is meaningless. Great application of common sense….
And how about other platforms? The PS4 version has a user score of 8.0. The Xbox One a 7.8. Isn't that weird now?
that is what, 300 users fox XBox, 1200 for PS4 and that somehow is more accurate than 9.5K users for PC ? According to your own logic this tells us nothing whatsoever
You cannot even be consistent….
Again, I never said the 4.1 is a fair score, but one that shows disappointment in the game. You somehow make it about accuracy when it never was.
Compared to what? You're just spouting more nonsense now.
just because you do not understand something does not mean it is nonsense.
Compared to number of copies sold obviously, where is your common sense. What percentage after 3,5,10 years should still play a game for it to be considered (still) popular ? What percentage would be a disappointment ?
Did you miss the part where I explained why the second expansion was abandoned or are you intentionally trying to look foolish at this point?
I saw you make a claim without any proof. If you do not accept that from me, I have no reason to accept that from you either.
Ah.. so now you're trying to put words in my mouth. Well I guess when all else fails…
funny, you are doing this a lot more than I am. If I 'put words in your mouth' it is because you are not sufficiently clear.
I've never said it was great or anything remotely close to that. In fact I even stated in this very thread that I think it's very average and that I wouldn't go back to it.
I did not memorize this thread, so forgive me for not knowing what else you wrote someplace.
Looks like we agree on how good / bad D3 was, not that I ever argued this to begin with. We seem to disagree on why there was no 2nd expansion however, and you have shown nothing to back up your version.
I used Google and found this
'One reason Blizzard is hesitant to devote resources to another Diablo 3 expansion is because since the Auction House was shut down, the game has not been a very good revenue stream in the west, where players buy the expansion and effectively nothing else after that. This is opposed to WoW, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch'
Emphasis on ONE reason, not THE ONLY reason, as you seem to think. So this basically shows that you are wrong, it is A reason, but not THE reason.
Here is some simple, common sense math for you. If creating the expansion costs maybe 20% of creating the base game (1 new act, 1 new class), yet Blizz charges half the price of the base game, Blizz would make about the same profit with the expansion as with the base game if it sold 50% as many copies. That in itself would be a lot of profit.
Why was the expansion abandoned then ? The only real variable here is what % of players (owners of the base game) would end up buying it, so what does that tell us about that percentage ?
