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March 5th, 2020, 13:15
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2025 release? Are you kidding me Todd?
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March 5th, 2020, 15:46
Probably because they are doing Garfield first. Err… Seinfeld. No, Starfield. Yes.
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March 5th, 2020, 16:02
Correct. Even though there is almost no buzz on Starfield, Bethesda, in their infinite stupidity is trying to show us what we want (Fallout 76/Starfield) rather than listen to their market research/word of mouth. I almost hope that Starfield tanks bad, so that they finally come to their senses, fire all of the leadership, and get back to their roots.
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March 5th, 2020, 16:38
That's a bit drastic LOL
They did listen to research, made Fallout Shelter and TES:Blades and made billions with those two things.
FO76 is now a pop culture and meme thing (any announced or speculated mmo gets 76 as suffix) so it's not all bad.
ESO failed to be WoW killer though. Well, they can always try with another title.
Most if not all of singleplayer games they made (or published) sold well. With or without Gamebryo.

From the business perspective I don't see any reason to change much of their company philosophy.
Sure, it's a sad thing every couple of months we're reminded Dragon Age 4 is being developed and not a single word about TES7, but that's not a reason to sack leadership.
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March 5th, 2020, 16:49
Originally Posted by crpgnut View Post
Correct. Even though there is almost no buzz on Starfield, Bethesda, in their infinite stupidity is trying to show us what we want (Fallout 76/Starfield) rather than listen to their market research/word of mouth. I almost hope that Starfield tanks bad, so that they finally come to their senses, fire all of the leadership, and get back to their roots.
I won't (surprise, surprise) go as far as you in critising Big B, but I do think it's weird that they haven't continued what I consider their main product line already. Maybe it is TES Online that prevents them. I have until now refused to believe that, but now…

BTW. I do believe that TES6 will be postponed to Q2 2026.

PS. Just learened that "critisising" should be spelt "criticising" or "criticizing". Hmm. I'M CONFUZED. DS.


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March 5th, 2020, 17:12
Originally Posted by joxer View Post
That's a bit drastic LOL
They did listen to research, made Fallout Shelter and TES:Blades and made billions with those two things.
FO76 is now a pop culture and meme thing (any announced or speculated mmo gets 76 as suffix) so it's not all bad.
ESO failed to be WoW killer though. Well, they can always try with another title.
Most if not all of singleplayer games they made (or published) sold well. With or without Gamebryo.

From the business perspective I don't see any reason to change much of their company philosophy.
Sure, it's a sad thing every couple of months we're reminded Dragon Age 4 is being developed and not a single word about TES7, but that's not a reason to sack leadership.
I'm pretty sure you meant TES6. We're not listening about TES6, let alone TES7.
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March 5th, 2020, 17:15
Originally Posted by a pibbur View Post
PS. Just learened that "critisising" should be spelt "criticising" or "criticizing".
I believe it doesn't matter, in UK s, in USA z, same meaning.
Erm.. Yeah, critic, not critis in both cases.
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I'm pretty sure you meant TES6. We're not listening about TES6, let alone TES7.
No as unless Beth officials say I'm wrong, I believe ESO is TES6. Just as FF14 is still 14 although is mmo. You might argue that why FO76 isn't in fact FO5 then, but the problem is FO76 is hardly a fallout game at all.
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March 5th, 2020, 17:26
As long as ESO keeps shipping new expansions, Bethesda won't release TESVI, that's clear. But 2025? And they teased it when? 2018? A seven year gap? Cyberpunk 2077 was teased in 2013? Getting released this year. Is this a new trend, because if it is, it needs to go away.
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March 5th, 2020, 18:03
Originally Posted by Tihskael View Post
Is this a new trend, because if it is, it needs to go away.
Well, M&B Bannerlord was announced in 2012, coming out 2020 so not such a new trend unfortunately.
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March 5th, 2020, 18:23
Originally Posted by joxer View Post
I believe it doesn't matter, in UK s, in USA z, same meaning.
Erm.. Yeah, critic, not critis in both cases.

No as unless Beth officials say I'm wrong, I believe ESO is TES6. Just as FF14 is still 14 although is mmo. You might argue that why FO76 isn't in fact FO5 then, but the problem is FO76 is hardly a fallout game at all.
The official announcement teaser from Bethesda says TES 6.

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March 5th, 2020, 18:31
Originally Posted by Tihskael View Post
As long as ESO keeps shipping new expansions, Bethesda won't release TESVI, that's clear.
Don't think so. If that's the case we won't see TES 6 before long after 2025. Unless Zenimax is very different from vendors like Blizzaed and SSG (lotro), they'll release expansions for years to come.

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March 5th, 2020, 19:39
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Aren't you criticizing yourself in that last statement? You did it just fine I think. :-)

As for TES6 I have no interest in Starfields myself. FO76 I have played here and there and I am waiting to see how the new big content update plays out.

ESO I like the idea of. Once or twice a year I login thinking I will get into it … but the micro-transactions and crates and other "pay" stuff is so in-your face (IMO) it keeps me from enjoying the game as I am always being reminded of the crass money aspect to it all. I keep trying to move past that as I think the game itself is pretty cool. But MT's annoy me so much that eventually I stop. Then go back after I forget how annoying it is.

I am looking forward to TES6 very much but also really worried what it might turn out to be. Maybe VR focused? Maybe even further removed from the open-world approach I enjoy so much? Or it could be much better - with companions and followers like those in FO4 only better.

Guess we will see if I am still around then.
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March 5th, 2020, 20:05
Originally Posted by crpgnut View Post
. I almost hope that Starfield tanks bad, so that they finally come to their senses, fire all of the leadership, and get back to their roots.
Who do you suppose would be doing the firing? A bunch of nameless (to us) bean counters who have nothing to do with the games we loved. The people who they would fire would be people like Todd Howard, who literally ARE those roots. If anything, we need new ownership, not new creative leadership. BGS has become a purely profit driven, market research driven, play it safe enterprise, and that wouldn't change as long as those bean counters are in charge.
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March 5th, 2020, 20:15
Originally Posted by wolfgrimdark View Post
Aren't you criticizing yourself in that last statement? You did it just fine I think. :-)

As for TES6 I have no interest in Starfields myself. FO76 I have played here and there and I am waiting to see how the new big content update plays out.

ESO I like the idea of. Once or twice a year I login thinking I will get into it … but the micro-transactions and crates and other "pay" stuff is so in-your face (IMO) it keeps me from enjoying the game as I am always being reminded of the crass money aspect to it all. I keep trying to move past that as I think the game itself is pretty cool. But MT's annoy me so much that eventually I stop. Then go back after I forget how annoying it is.
I understand the sentiment. Fortunately for me I am somewhat good at not noticing things like that (Not necessarily a good thing in the long run).

I am looking forward to TES6 very much but also really worried what it might turn out to be. Maybe VR focused? Maybe even further removed from the open-world approach I enjoy so much? Or it could be much better - with companions and followers like those in FO4 only better.
Agreed
Guess we will see if I am still around then.
A the age of 65 I'm even more concerned with that aspect.

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March 6th, 2020, 00:08
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The official announcement teaser from Bethesda says TES 6.
Yes, and ESO is published by Bethesda, but is not developed by BGS. BSG wouldn't include someone else's game, even one under the same publishing umbrella, in their numbering.
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March 6th, 2020, 06:26
I'm still waiting for Half Life 2 Episode 3. But all the developers retired already.
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March 6th, 2020, 07:37
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I'm still waiting for Half Life 2 Episode 3. But all the developers retired already.
We got that Alyx thing. Maybe it's good. I don't have a VR headset and I don't particularly plan to get one, but still.
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March 13th, 2020, 18:28
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