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August 25th, 2018, 09:12
You guys are all way too sensitive. As likely the only non white in this thread I find it amusong how you priveleged white ppl are so offended at how others talk. Honestly, white priveleged ppl such as yourself make me sick. Stop trying to be some social politics police already and get over yourself. Don’t be part of the outrage machine that is the internet.
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August 25th, 2018, 09:51
Originally Posted by Mustawd View Post
You guys are all way too sensitive. As likely the only non white in this thread I find it amusong how you priveleged white ppl are so offended at how others talk. Honestly, white priveleged ppl such as yourself make me sick. Stop trying to be some social politics police already and get over yourself. Don’t be part of the outrage machine that is the internet.
The opposite is true. What we see is a desensitization in many countries of Europe (and the US). Far right viewpoints and phrases become "normal" more and more and drift into public space. Yes, the internet helps giving a loud minority a voice and it can function as an outrage machine.

I don't feel responsible for crimes my forefathers did (as nobody should), but that doesn't mean we should act as it never happened, allow glorification, history-bending or repeat it.
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August 25th, 2018, 10:22
Are you guys serious? This is not about being sensitive or politically correct. You could make that argument with just about anything else, but we're talking about literal nazism here. Fanatics that believe other races are inferior and should be put to death. That's not just another political or social opinion. It's downright evil.

And for those of you still playing dumb and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not a neo-nazi , I once again invite you to look at his other social media. Obsession with cultural homogeneity, revisionist talking points, third reich tribute videos, white nationalist bands, and political groups that want the "restoration of the german empire." Yeah, I believe him when he said he was a nazi on the codex.

Furthermore, this isn't just some low level programmer we're talking about. It's the lead writer of the game. It's naive to assume his beliefs wont influence the game at all, and frankly that's not a bet I would be willing to take.

Finally, no one said that he isn't entitled to his beliefs. It's just that his beliefs are evil, and I'm entitled to call him an asshole for thinking my kind is lesser than his.
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August 25th, 2018, 10:24
Originally Posted by HobGoblin42 View Post
2.) I "left" the codex last year or so because I was sick of being permanently harrassed in almost every thread/topic by so called Alt-Rights/Trumpists/Neo Nazis. I am fine with those attacks in political threads, but those guys even attacked me (and my project) in threads related to RPGs and my game which made this place way too toxic for me.
Come now Peter, nobody forced you to become an outspoken regular in our Politics forum: http://www.rpgcodex.net/stats.php?user=15541

I'm not sure how much people could have you attacked you in RPG threads when you were barely posting in any by the end. Most game developers who post on the Codex wouldn't do this!

Anyway, how about that new Settlers game eh?
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August 25th, 2018, 10:38
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And for those of you still playing dumb and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not a neo-nazi , I once again invite you to look at his other social media.
Link or hint please?
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August 25th, 2018, 10:44
Originally Posted by Mustawd View Post
You guys are all way too sensitive. As likely the only non white in this thread I find it amusong how you priveleged white ppl are so offended at how others talk. Honestly, white priveleged ppl such as yourself make me sick. Stop trying to be some social politics police already and get over yourself. Don’t be part of the outrage machine that is the internet.
This is what I wanted to read, keeping things in perspective is always a necessity, no matter the nature of the subject.
Claiming death to the nazi doesn't make of you a better person, on the contrary. A life is a life, and killing people just because they got different opinion is no good at all. Sadly, that's the part of our all history, it always been like that, beleive it or not.
And don't come telling me what I don't say : I'm not a racist.
Truth to be told, on a side note, I love jamaican music, and maybe you've heard or seen people wearing holy turban to keep their dreads up. it's a meaning to claim "black man suppremacy" and death to the white oppressor. These dreads call themselves Bobo dreads or Bobo Shanty, and have their camp in the hills in JA. Call them black nazi if you want, you're free to do so.

Does it make them really bad person? It's up to you to judge of that, but afterall, who are we to judge people, specially when we don't personnally know them. Claiming opinions is one thing, acting for them in another one, specially when it comes to harm to your neighbor.
And damn, despite claiming such things, they're real good singers. Some name you want? Sizzla, Capleton, Junior Kelly, …

And then, what to think when you can see some window curved or roof and arks with swatika symbols on holy churches in Lalibela, Ethiopia. Is the Ethiopian Orthodox Church a nazi religion ? Hahaha, no, just one of the oldest christian church on earth, perhaps one of the most faithful to the roots of the Bible (and both old and new testaments).
http://su-asti-gil.over-blog.com/article-35437559.html

I don't take you for some idiots, I'm pretty sure you may know the story behind this symbol, but what I was trying to say is that it's an absolute necessity to keeps things in perspective.

Ha, before I close my post, one thing you may not know too concerning Ethiopia and Nazis : just before the beginning of WW2, when Musso prepared to invade Ethiopa (and take revenge on their Adwa defeat), the Emperor Kadamawe Haile Selassie was of course preparing his defense (who wouldn't?), and then, during so, asked all European countries to help him. Guess who was the first and lonely to help poor Ethiopia ? German congress (and Japan too) by secretly sending funds to HIM so that he could arm his ill-equiped army. This happened in 1935, guys ! Sure this happened because of some political facts, not opinions one, but hell, just to tell you sometimes, unexpected things can happen from your ennemies, not your friends…
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August 25th, 2018, 11:08
Evil or not evil is a difficult and vague concept.
Nowadays it comes down to accepting or rejecting the constitution based on human rights.
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August 25th, 2018, 11:08
Originally Posted by Morrandir View Post
Link or hint please?
Well in addition to everything else I just said, look at his groups

https://www.deviantart.com/8national…ls/memberlist/ #53

Hopefully there's no doubt he's a nazi now.
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August 25th, 2018, 11:16
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3.) JarlFrank didn't and doesn't belong in any of those groups mentioned above because otherwise I wouldn't have asked him to join us in the first place.
https://www.deviantart.com/8national…ls/memberlist/ #53

So now that you know, are you going to fire him? Or are you comfortable having a self-identified national socialist as your lead writer?
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August 25th, 2018, 11:25
Originally Posted by Silver Coin View Post
Well in addition to everything else I just said, look at his groups

https://www.deviantart.com/8national…ls/memberlist/ #53

Hopefully there's no doubt he's a nazi now.
I'm way more worried that the game will include some weird foot fetish stuff now.
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August 25th, 2018, 11:26
Yeah, looking at it, I think he probably is the real deal. I wonder if he's going to be all coy and mealy-mouthed about it now there's a game to promote?
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August 25th, 2018, 11:37
Probably? Hell no, it's undeniable at this point. Until the developers address the fact that their lead writer is a national socialist, I will be reminding people on every single thread, in the kickstarter comments, and anywhere else I see them promoting the game.
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August 25th, 2018, 11:41
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So it's actually 3.5E rules? Awesome!

Just make sure the animations allow me to make my moves quickly! I've probably already decided my actions several turns in advance and anything slowing me down in carrying them out will get tedious. Even DOS2 was only just fast enough. DOS1 was too slow. The units should have finished their animations before my mouse cursor gets to its next destination. I don't want to wait for animations to carry out before I can click again!
@HobGoblin42 Just to make sure you read it.
You can speed up combats to 5x or something (it's explained on the official site but I don't feel to go there to check right now).
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August 25th, 2018, 11:48
The rabbit hole goes deeper. His name shows up on a white nationalist blog post about people with secret swastika tattoos. Coincidence? I think not.

http://jolieblogz.blogspot.com/2010/…a-tattoos.html
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August 25th, 2018, 12:24
Originally Posted by Silver Coin View Post
https://www.deviantart.com/8national…ls/memberlist/ #53

So now that you know, are you going to fire him? Or are you comfortable having a self-identified national socialist as your lead writer?
Those information (and others in this thread) are new to me and I will evaluate them as soon as the Gamescom closes today.
I don't ask for censorship, but it would be nice if some admin/mod could change that other topic title for now.
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August 25th, 2018, 13:55
Originally Posted by Silver Coin View Post
https://www.deviantart.com/8national…ls/memberlist/ #53

So now that you know, are you going to fire him? Or are you comfortable having a self-identified national socialist as your lead writer?
I agree, some of that stuff on JarlFrank's deviantart is truly deplorable.

I mean look at this:

https://www.deviantart.com/jarlfrank…olor-687220697

Would you back anything made by this obviously deranged person?
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August 25th, 2018, 14:28
Originally Posted by Silver Coin View Post
Probably? Hell no, it's undeniable at this point. Until the developers address the fact that their lead writer is a national socialist, I will be reminding people on every single thread, in the kickstarter comments, and anywhere else I see them promoting the game.
I think you're jumping the gun. He's talked about dating a Muslim woman a year or two ago. Nazis don't date outside their own race.
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August 25th, 2018, 14:34
I do hope Silvercoin and Winterfart created an account at the Codex as well as RPGWatch.

You both definitely seem at home with drama, wouldn't want you to miss any.
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August 25th, 2018, 14:41
Originally Posted by Silver Coin View Post
Look at his social media.
We don't even know the political or otherwise beliefs of MOST of our members HERE. Did you notice that ?

Originally Posted by Grimlorn View Post
I think you're jumping the gun. He's talked about dating a Muslim woman a year or two ago. Nazis don't date outside their own race.
We don't use the term "race" here in Germany, maybe Nazis and Neonazis do, but we here say "culture".

I openly say that I have found it all of my life always VERY DISTURBING that the English language STILL uses the term "race when speaking of people coming from other parts of the world (mostly outside of the european context -> immigrants from Europe into USA) -
- the English language STIL USES the term "race" used by the Nazis as if that dreadful nazi race thing never happened.

All of my life I have found it so much disturbing that the English language still uses the Nazi term "race" when speaking of humans coming from diffirent cultures. From different continents.

Which in my very personal opinion shows me that the Nazi thinking of "races" has NEVER died out and was NEVER SUPPRESSED in the English language !

The word "race" is EXCLUSIVELY used for ANIMALS in today's German language.
So, does this mean that the English language still believes humans to be animals of different breed ?

Me, I'm feeling so much safer with the German term of "cultures" -> "multicultural societies",
often shortened to "multi-culti", which has nowadays gotten a bad tongue like the word "Gutmensch".

The term "multicultural" clearly shows that the HUMAN is so much more, far more important than where he or she comes from.

Of course, I can only speak for myself.

Everyday "racism" - this is the ONLY word used in German language in which the word "race" is there, clearly showuing that "racism" is a thing still connected with Nazi-thinking - is there, of course. Things don't change over a few decades. It needs hundreds of years to end that, and, especially, cultural shifts. Cultural shifts.

Personally, I'm glad to live close to a town - Cologne - in which there is so much multicultiralism, and at the same time I can feel Deutsch - in my point of view BECAUSE in thattown there's so much embraced. In my opinion, every single bit enriches us, culturally. What would the world be without Pizza, Spaghett and Döner ?
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August 25th, 2018, 14:48
What the living fark happened to this thread??? =xxxx
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