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July 31st, 2011, 10:59
If you don't mind a little spoilers there is a cute new production video blog on the dwarfs of the upcoming The Hobbit movie.

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July 31st, 2011, 12:21
Originally Posted by hishadow View Post
If you don't mind a little spoilers there is a cute new production video blog on the dwarfs of the upcoming The Hobbit movie.

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I'm extremely excited about The Hobbit and can't wait for 2012 for the first part. The movie seems to be making good progress and I love the dwarves and how they look.

Really cool.
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July 31st, 2011, 14:05
I'm currently discussing the looks of the Dwarves over there at Larian forums with the older members there from the German-language fan-base.

To me, they look nothing like beingdescribed in the book.

Clearly - and this is how i see it - Mr. Jackson et. al. want to make the Hi9bbit movie as grity as the LOTR movies - or at least try to bring it into a line with them.

The gritty and rather deark looks of the Dwarves are imho an expression of this goal, and the announcement from long ago to add Dol Guldur is imho another example of this.

This won't be a children's book at all. This will be a dark and gritty fantasy movie (I was almost about to write "Dark Fantasy") as far away from the Children's book as possible, I predict.

An, to add a more cynical note, I guess/assume that Mr. Jackson justcouldn't do a light-hearted movie, no matter how much he'd try to. He just cannot do other things like horror-themed movies, imho.

And now he's transforming a children's book into a Dark Fantasy (see ! I wrote it ! ) nightmare … A very good one, nevertheless. He knows his craft, this is for sure. And the cash registers will explode …
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July 31st, 2011, 15:41
Alrik, it sounds like that forum is having a bad influence on you.

Might I just add that Peter Jackson & Co did a fantastic job on LOTR when you take into account that they work within the Hollywood system. Imagine Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich producing this! *shrugs*
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July 31st, 2011, 16:06
Hm, I like their looks. Not like in the books, but I don't care as long as I like the result .
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July 31st, 2011, 17:36
I've only seen a picture of the dwarves. They all looked great apart from Thorin - who looked completely wrong to my mind.

No one can deny that the LotR movies went beyond pretty much everyone's expectations - but I have to say I didn't care much for several of the changes to the source material. Most especially, I hated what they did to my favorite character of Faramir.

I won't follow these blogs because I don't want to spoil anything for myself. I want the experience to be free from preconceptions and expectations - as much as possible

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July 31st, 2011, 19:31
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I've only seen a picture of the dwarves. They all looked great apart from Thorin - who looked completely wrong to my mind.
Yeah, I also don't like something about Thorin. He looks lordly, and he should be, considering his background, but there's something unpleasant in his appearance. He also looks kinda like a pirate. Maybe?
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Yeah, I also don't like something about Thorin. He looks lordly, and he should be, considering his background, but there's something unpleasant in his appearance. He also looks kinda like a pirate. Maybe?
Someone said he looked like a Klingon - and that's pretty good for what I'm talking about. Not at all like I imagined him when reading the book.

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July 31st, 2011, 20:48
Other than Gollum, I found nothing particularly impressive about the LotR movies.

I got caught up in the hype at first, but as time went on I realized they were just decent popcorn entertainment to me, nothing more. Maybe if Jackson hadn't tried to add his own flair to certain scenes I could have enjoyed them more. As a result, I'm only mildly interested in The Hobbit.

That Gollum sure looked cool though…
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Might I just add that Peter Jackson & Co did a fantastic job on LOTR when you take into account that they work within the Hollywood system.
LOTR is imho something *entirely* different than the Hobbit book, that's the point, imho !
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August 1st, 2011, 02:32
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LOTR is imho something *entirely* different than the Hobbit book, that's the point, imho !
That Peter Jackson & Co made LOTR was my point! Purists can go dig up the cartoon instead.
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August 1st, 2011, 09:54
The cartoon is horrible except if you're a kid

In any case - if you know how Hollywood works and how they expect to get returns on their investments - LotR is a bit of a miracle - warts and all.

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The cartoon is horrible except if you're a kid
Exactly. It's especially YUCK, I didn't even like it when I was a teenager.

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LotR is a bit of a miracle - warts and all.
Okay, but do you know why Woody Allen does movies here in Europe in the recent years ?

1. he wants to be independent from Hollywood
2. Hollywood doesn't give him the mane he wants for making HIS movies

LOTR is like EA or ActiBlizzard making a game.

THe Hobbit should have been done by an independent movie mker like by Woody Allen, so to say, instead, it would have been much more fair to the theme of the movie, I assume.
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August 1st, 2011, 14:20
I remember really liking the animated version of The Hobbit, especially some of the music/songs.

Of course I was very young when I first saw it.. probably around 6 or 7 years old, and I haven't watched it fully in 20+ years.

It's amazing what nostalgia can do sometimes.
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Okay, but do you know why Woody Allen does movies here in Europe in the recent years ?

1. he wants to be independent from Hollywood
2. Hollywood doesn't give him the mane he wants for making HIS movies

LOTR is like EA or ActiBlizzard making a game.

THe Hobbit should have been done by an independent movie mker like by Woody Allen, so to say, instead, it would have been much more fair to the theme of the movie, I assume.
Are you aware of the budget difference between Woody Allen movies and the LotR trilogy, Alrik?

It's pretty key to why Hollywood is needed for movies like this.

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August 1st, 2011, 15:54
George Lucas is independent btw., resulting in horrors like Jar Jar Binks.
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August 1st, 2011, 15:55
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George Lucas is independent btw.
Ironically, he's the one person where that's not helping the outcome

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August 1st, 2011, 17:45
I liked the cartoon. Got it on DVD and saw it twice at a theater when it came out.
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