PC Gamer - Windows 10 Leaked Build Pushes XBox

Originally Posted by Vindicator
I think it would be smart for MS to turn Windows 10 into an Xbox emulator. After all, MS makes money from game sales, not so much from the console hardware.

My thinking is that, ultimately, the prize is to own the dominant gaming and distribution platform. I think that what Valve is trying to do with Steam OS is, all things being equal, the best long term strategy for success - a free gaming software platform configured for console style ease of use, but totally open for developers, tweaking, modding, hotrodding, and with their distribution system at the heart.

But things are not equal, in the sense that they have a mountain to climb in making Linux an accepted mainstream gaming OS. I hope they succeed, as that would be my favoured option.

What I'm suggesting is that MS could ape that strategy, but with the massive advantage of already being the dominant PC gaming OS. They should change their conception of "Xbox" to essentially match Steambox (open to all hardware vendors and home builds), but with a cutdown, free, gaming version of Windows as its OS, and their own game store at the centre, taking their cut.

Originally Posted by Bubbles
The issue comes when everyone is talking a game up to high heaven and I buy it like an idiot trusting everyone. Like with Dark Souls. I downloaded the dsfix and mouse fix, etc, but I am way to rooted in science and being civilized to play a game with such a monkey-focused control scheme. It is unplayable and is wasted money that supports exactly what I never want my money to support.

I've always been a PC gamer first. Like you, I prefer Keyboard and Mouse controls. But I don't prefer them because I think somehow they're more 'civilized.' I prefer them because for most the games I play on the PC the keyboard and mouse provide a level of input that is appropriate.

But some games I enjoy playing with a game controller on the PC. I played Dark Souls 1 and 2 on the PC using an Xbox 360 controller. I'm also playing Assassin's Creed IV with a game controller. These kinds of games make sense with a controller (at least to me anyway) and so I happily use them.

I'm not sure what I think of about the Xbox One emulator on Win10… honestly I just don't know enough about it. But if it's something you can use or ignore, I probably won't care one way or another. But if Win10 is going to have some weird Xbox One dashboard as the default UI, then yeah, I'd be aghast. But that isn't what they are pitching from what I've read.

Originally Posted by joxer
That bullshit will be hacked out from my PC.
It's PC. It is not inferior hardware, it's not a toaster.

Hey, are you calling my PC a toaster!?! The current consoles are probably about as powerful as my current PC.

Originally Posted by Bubbles
It is offensive and ridiculous. What I really hate are all the fucking controller games or "controller recommended" games they are pushing out for the pc. If I wanted to play with an inferior and savage controller instead kb&m I'd buy a fucking console. Fuck you games with lists for inventory or ridiculous controller savage menus and other savage little kid console bullshit. I want to shoot the people in the face on the steam forums who whine about controller support. Buy a fucking console. PCs are for civilized and superior kb&m or gamepad and mouse. Just like modern houses are made with in door plumbing and running hot water and electricity, keep your fucking honey pots and outhouses for camping and for those living in teepees. Keep console shit on the consoles for the monkeys, and let me have civilized input devices and menus and inventories made for civilized folk who believe in science and progress.

(Emphasis mine.)

LOL, hahaha what? I really and sincerely hope this is sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Bubbles
[…] Like with Dark Souls. I downloaded the dsfix and mouse fix, etc, but I am way to rooted in science and being civilized to play a game with such a monkey-focused control scheme. […]

Oh, RPGWatch. I don't know what to believe anymore.

Sounds fine to me, promoting their flagship gaming platform… pretty normal?

And that is why we stick to Windows 7 and steer clear of all this vertical integration and dumbfuckery.

This thread became really funny, I actually also hate console focused menus but I prefer it to not getting to play the game on the PC at all….

To me even Windows 8.1 bothers me, I don't want to be forced to get news update from Microsoft and let them track me, and having them rub their dumb "app store" in my face at every occasion. This is a wretched abomination, nothing less.

Not to mention the "hot corners", the single worst UI trait ever devised by mankind. I STILL haven't been able to get rid of them all on my laptop.

Originally Posted by Humanity has risen!
And that is why we stick to Windows 7 and steer clear of all this vertical integration and dumbfuckery.

Fine by me, who never installed his Win7 licence and still lives on XP (with this ATM updates..), but…

no DirectX 12 for Win 7 AFAWK. Too bad…

Actually people have backported DirectX 11 into Windows XP, so I wouldn't be so sure.

Originally Posted by Humanity has risen!
Actually people have backported DirectX 11 into Windows XP, so I wouldn't be so sure.

Well, can you back your claims with evidendence?

I know that there is a half-broken DX10 implementation for XP (broke my system with it once), but never there never was one for dx11.

Linx plez!

Originally Posted by Humanity has risen!
To me even Windows 8.1 bothers me, I don't want to be forced to get news update from Microsoft and let them track me, and having them rub their dumb "app store" in my face at every occasion. This is a wretched abomination, nothing less.

Not to mention the "hot corners", the single worst UI trait ever devised by mankind. I STILL haven't been able to get rid of them all on my laptop.

Have to agree with this,Windows 7 is the best operating system I have had the most luck with.Wondering how good or bad Windows 10 will be..

Originally Posted by Humanity has risen!
To me even Windows 8.1 bothers me, I don't want to be forced to get news update from Microsoft and let them track me, and having them rub their dumb "app store" in my face at every occasion. This is a wretched abomination, nothing less.

What's this? I've never experienced features like that in 8.1. Unless you by "app store" mean the Metro interface which I found hideous. But I got rid of that.

Not to mention the "hot corners", the single worst UI trait ever devised by mankind. I STILL haven't been able to get rid of them all on my laptop.

The most annoying feature for me was the metro interface. Fortunately the start menu is brought back by applications like Start8.

Out of the box there are several issues with 8.1. But after minor adjustments, on a day to day basis I don't notice any significant differences from 7.

Pibbur who is at version 60 and who likes the term "abomination", but reserves it for other, in his eyes more serious things.