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July 2nd, 2015, 12:54
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
I don't care about 120, but I do care about 60. You won't be playing games at a steady 60 for long, and I'd be willing to bet you can't run something like Star Citizen or Witcher 3 at a constant 60+ frame rate at max details at 4K.

That said, you might actually believe you can - and that's often enough



There's a long way from release to implementation. By the time DX12 is used well in games, we'll be talking about entirely different GPUs.

I'm talking about the present
You see I can't tell the difference between 40 FPS and 60 FPS once I turn off Fraps
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July 2nd, 2015, 12:59
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I just imagined that I have million pounds and I still won't buy get myself to buy dual titans! May be just 1

I don't come from rich background however I am resonably well off now. However my mum got it in my head from an early stage the value of money and we should only spend it on stuff if we really need them else save. She did this since our dad used to work really hard etc. So these days even though I have money, due to my mum's brain washing gaming gear doesn't pass the "really need" test for me! Parents can really ruin their children
No rich background here either. I still remember the gross government cheese and powdered milk, people used to leave baskets of food on the steps of our trailer.

I have worked hard to get to the level of financial security I have now. Used to regularly work over 100 hours a week. (Now I'm taking it easy and only putting in 60-70.)It was brutal. So now I will enjoy the fruits of that hard work.

My PC is the one thing I splurge on everything else I own is very modest. If you saw my house you definitely wouldn't get the impression that I have money.

Sorry for off topic.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:00
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No rich background here either. I still remember the gross government cheese and powdered milk, people used to leave baskets of food on the steps of our trailer.

I have worked hard to get to the level of financial security I have now. Used to regularly work over 100 hours a week. (Now I'm taking it easy and only putting in 60-70.)It was brutal. So now I will enjoy the fruits of that hard work.

My PC is the one thing I splurge on everything else I own is very modest. If you saw my house you definitely wouldn't get the impression that I have money.

Sorry for off topic.
While I would never, in a million years, work 60-70 hours for monetary gain, I'm more than supportive of you enjoying the fruits of your labor

I'm just pointing out there are potentially smarter ways to enjoy it - but I think we've been through that before.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:07
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
I don't care about 120, but I do care about 60. You won't be playing games at a steady 60 for long, and I'd be willing to bet you can't run something like Star Citizen AC, Metro or perhaps even Witcher 3 at a constant 60+ frame rate at max details at 4K.

That said, you might actually believe you can - and that's often enough



There's a long way from release to implementation. By the time DX12 is used well in games, we'll be talking about entirely different GPUs.

I'm talking about the present
I don't even get 60 fps 100% of the time at 3440x1440, but it's close and still silky smooth so I don't fuss over the exact fps. It's more about how it feels.

I do think dx12 will be adopted rather quickly due to xbone supporting it. Devs and Microsoft will want to use the extra performance boost it will offer since the xbone is lagging behind at the moment.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:11
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
While I would never, in a million years, work 60-70 hours for monetary gain, I'm more than supportive of you enjoying the fruits of your labor

I'm just pointing out there are potentially smarter ways to enjoy it - but I think we've been through that before.
I've always worked extremely hard to achieve my goals. I assume growing up with nothing has that influence on people.



For sure there is but me nor my family is left wanting in other areas either.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:11
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No rich background here either. I still remember the gross government cheese and powdered milk, people used to leave baskets of food on the steps of our trailer.

I have worked hard to get to the level of financial security I have now. Used to regularly work over 100 hours a week. (Now I'm taking it easy and only putting in 60-70.)It was brutal. So now I will enjoy the fruits of that hard work.

My PC is the one thing I splurge on everything else I own is very modest. If you saw my house you definitely wouldn't get the impression that I have money.

Sorry for off topic.
Nothing wrong in spending money you have earned. After all that's why we work hard, its not like you can take it with you. Even though I know this but my mum is still in my head and judging me

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While I would never, in a million years, work 60-70 hours for monetary gain, I'm more than supportive of you enjoying the fruits of your labor

I'm just pointing out there are potentially smarter ways to enjoy it - but I think we've been through that before.
If you don’t mind me asking, what is the average working hours in Denmark? 50 hours is the average here in UK for most people.
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July 2nd, 2015, 13:15
Originally Posted by sakichop View Post
I don't even get 60 fps 100% of the time at 3440x1440, but it's close and still silky smooth so I don't fuss over the exact fps. It's more about how it feels.

I do think dx12 will be adopted rather quickly due to xbone supporting it. Devs and Microsoft will want to use the extra performance boost it will offer since the xbone is lagging behind at the moment.
It could be that we have different ideas of "rather quickly"

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:16
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Nothing wrong in spending money you have earned. After all that's why we work hard, its not like you can take it with you. Even though I know this but my mum is still in my head and judging me
Nothing wrong with saving either. At the end of the day people should do whatever makes them happy.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:17
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
It could be that we have different ideas of "rather quickly"
Probably, I was thinking a year or 2.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:17
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If you don’t mind me asking, what is the average working hours in Denmark? 50 hours is the average here in UK for most people.
Around 37 hours is the average work week.

I work less than that, even. That said, I can state with confidence that I'm extremely efficient - so I don't need to work hard to go beyond what's expected, which I often do.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:18
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Probably, I was thinking a year or 2.
Closer to 2 years, probably, and that's sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:19
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I've always worked extremely hard to achieve my goals. I assume growing up with nothing has that influence on people.
I commend you

Thankfully, I've never had to work that hard to get what I want and be comfortable, with or without a partner to support.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:23
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Closer to 2 years, probably, and that's sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
I suppose for most it would be.

Being rather goal oriented though, setting short and long term goals 2 years doesn't seem that long to achieve something.

The fact that I apply that kind of thinking to everything my be saying more about me that I care to reveal.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:24
I'm very goal oriented myself. I'm just not what you would call a patient person

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:27
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I'm very goal oriented myself. I'm just not what you would call a patient person
I see.

Thanks for the chat Dart, now off to work. I should have left an hour ago. Perks of being the boss I guess.

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July 2nd, 2015, 13:30
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I see.

Thanks for the chat Dart, now off to work. I should have left an hour ago. Perks of being the boss I guess.
Have at it!

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July 2nd, 2015, 14:02
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
While I would never, in a million years, work 60-70 hours for monetary gain, I'm more than supportive of you enjoying the fruits of your labor

I'm just pointing out there are potentially smarter ways to enjoy it - but I think we've been through that before.
It's funny that in the nordic countries people value money a lot less, probably because of our social security system.

There was a world wide ranking of what is most important in your job, in sweden it looked something like this:

1. Working hours
2. Flexiblity
3. Collegues
4 Personal Development and Learning
5. Salary.

In 99.9 % of all of the countries the list was like this:

1. Salary
2. ..
3…

Opps sorry for the off-topic…. I guess it should be some other thread for this.
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July 2nd, 2015, 15:37
Originally Posted by GothicGothicness View Post
It's funny that in the nordic countries people value money a lot less, probably because of our social security system.

There was a world wide ranking of what is most important in your job, in sweden it looked something like this:

1. Working hours
2. Flexiblity
3. Collegues
4 Personal Development and Learning
5. Salary.

In 99.9 % of all of the countries the list was like this:

1. Salary
2. ..
3…

Opps sorry for the off-topic…. I guess it should be some other thread for this.
Off-topic, yes. We already were quite off topic, though

But you're right, best saved for another thread.

I agree, though.

Yes, I have absolutely no doubt the Scandinavian model is vastly superior, when you look at how much time people have available on this Earth.

Doesn't mean I don't think our societies are total shit, but then again, I'm not easy to satisfy

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July 2nd, 2015, 16:18
Originally Posted by DArtagnan View Post
32" 2560x1440P here.
Same here but I got the Samsung, not the BenQ (same panel in both AFAIK).
Coming from 27" the size was definitely a little intimidating at first but gaming has become a lot more (even more) "cinematic". It's awesome. I just wish it had G-Sync and then it would be perfect.
You definitely need a spacious desk for this kind of LCD. My desk is pretty big but the screen is still sitting all the way at the back with the stand. I could probably deal with a 34" max but anything above that would be too large.
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July 2nd, 2015, 18:58
4K is a gimmick? I'm happily 4K gaming right now and loving it.

Of course, you probably can't turn on HBAO, SSAA, Godrays, etc. in some games if you want to get a constant 60 FPS, but if you're happy in the 30-60 range with a few graphical effects turned off or set to lower settings, a GTX 970 will get you some 4K gaming goodness.

I guess you'll all just ignore this post, though. Oh well. I'll go back to gaming in 4K and being amazed at the resolution.

And lostforever, did you miss my post? I posted a video of someone playing The Witcher 3 in 4K with a GTX 970. Doesn't look bad to me.

Here's the video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b98J0NOmeuY

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