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March 5th, 2017, 12:28
Stamina usage when climbing. That's a pretty neat mechanic. The one power that freezes water to make a platform is cool, too, as it can be done vertically or horizontally. It seems the game has a ton of really clever things like that. And the Switch cartridges themselves are made out of some foul-tasting stuff so if a baby tries to eat one it will spit it out. Nintendo has some ideas, man…

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March 5th, 2017, 16:17
From what I've seen, OST is disappointing, at least in comparison to other in the series.
Seems they were going for a more relaxed, minimalistic tone that blends in with exploration, but there is too much dead silence in between and when it begins and ends, it feels far too artificial.

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March 5th, 2017, 20:21
That is the theme that plays when you are in the overworld, the other themes arent like that except for the temple of time which was also deliberate:

https://youtu.be/CkHtziJgFJI?t=6m

The overworld music is meant so you can listen to nature in between, TBH I would have preferred no music at all in the overworld, but this isnt so bad, you still get the feeling you are in nature. There is combat music and horseriding music that is vastly different.

As for artificial, I dont get the comment. It is simply bad without the context of playing the game, but artificial is a word that I would use to describe all man made music. You have to be more clear by what you mean with that comment.
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March 6th, 2017, 12:54
Anyone thinking of buying Switch, your save games is tied to your console (internal memory) and no way to transfer it in any way or shape! So your console broke or got lost, you are out of luck. I can't believe they are pulling this crap in 2017…. I hope that the same people who designed the console didn't didn't design the Zelad game since they are sounds like retards!
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March 6th, 2017, 13:57
Originally Posted by BoboTheMighty View Post

By that reasoning, non well paced ( except for MGS IV) games do not exist, as long as player has any influence over it and is willing to suspend his disbelief to give player character any freedom.
Main Story in Open world games should more slowly build their tempo, focus on investigation and player driven discovery, and use lore/side quests to reinforce it.
No. Clinging to what was dismissed earlier. BotW is not story driven. Looking for a lack of pacing because of a story line in a game that is not story driven is looking at the wrong place.

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This is the exact thing I was wondering right now. I was watching a video about the multiple reviews for Breath of the Wild, and everyone seems to be salivating after it. And I also cannot see it. I mean, the video I was watching, quoted various parts of the reviews, and they seem to be gushing at the mouth for every basic feature. They were actually excited that the Zelda game now had cooking.

I believe it's mostly just nostalgia around the franchise. From what I can see they basically copy-pasted every open-world mechanic (mechanics that were in other games for ages) into their game.
Non sense. Nostalgia about a franchise that is not discontinued, is one of the most vivid franchises. Next time, nostalgia about FIFA, CoD, GR etc

There is a reason to be excited about cooking: because it is treated the same way as the other features and is a fully integrated gameplay feature.
The gameplay opportunities offered in BotW are not in the same leagues as Balrum, the Witcher or Skyrim. Very few features in Botw leading to think of failed implemention, poor execution in ideas, recycling of an aborted idea etc

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The world seems more dangerous than most RPGs I've seen.
Things can go fast in fights. This said, there does not seem to be an elitist approach as any situation can be overpowered/overlevelled.
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March 6th, 2017, 18:55
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No. Clinging to what was dismissed earlier. BotW is not story driven. Looking for a lack of pacing because of a story line in a game that is not story driven is looking at the wrong place.
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Then it should not have "save the world" classic hero plot, regardless of being or not "story driven".

Example of this done right in an open world: Stalker series.

Non sense. Nostalgia about a franchise that is not discontinued, is one of the most vivid franchises. Next time, nostalgia about FIFA, CoD, GR etc
Nostalgia is the wrong word here…This Zelda game is designed differently than others.
But strong emotional resonance is absolutely unquestionable with this franchise.

As for artificial, I dont get the comment. It is simply bad without the context of playing the game, but artificial is a word that I would use to describe all man made music. You have to be more clear by what you mean with that comment.
How it breaks in and out of silence feels abrupt and does not 'flow' well with the game. It would be far better if it had large set of fade in/out tracks like in Minecraft that run in intervals.
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March 6th, 2017, 19:39
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Anyone thinking of buying Switch, your save games is tied to your console (internal memory) and no way to transfer it in any way or shape! So your console broke or got lost, you are out of luck. I can't believe they are pulling this crap in 2017…. I hope that the same people who designed the console didn't didn't design the Zelad game since they are sounds like retards!
Or you can send it back to Nintendo and they will fix it for cheap if anything thing at all. Nintendo customer service is the best in the world.

I think it is designed in such a way that it has less chance to be hacked.
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March 6th, 2017, 19:57
Anyone else starting to smell a fanboy in this thread?
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March 6th, 2017, 20:29
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Anyone else starting to smell a fanboy in this thread?
I am definitely a fanboy of Nintendo's customer service. I just love hearing stories about their customer service. Like the one where some guy sent them a MODDED gamecube I believe and instead of confiscating it, they fixed it and said they wont fix it the next time. Lots of stories like that around.
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March 6th, 2017, 21:27
Nintendo really cheaped out on the left joycon, it has an easy fix that Nintendo doesnt do. Shame.

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March 6th, 2017, 21:59
I played the original Zelda on my NES back when it first came out, and at the time there was just nothing like it. It really was an amazing game for it's time, and that's always going to color how we see new games in the series.

I think I've played just about every other Zelda game, and if I had a Nintendo Switch I'd definitely pick up this one too. But I no longer consider them to be amazing or anything like that, they are just fun and clever games that I can usually count on to be halfway decent. The new game sounds quite different, so maybe it will turn out to be something amazing again.
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March 7th, 2017, 05:35
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I played the original Zelda on my NES back when it first came out, and at the time there was just nothing like it. It really was an amazing game for it's time, and that's always going to color how we see new games in the series.

I think I've played just about every other Zelda game, and if I had a Nintendo Switch I'd definitely pick up this one too. But I no longer consider them to be amazing or anything like that, they are just fun and clever games that I can usually count on to be halfway decent. The new game sounds quite different, so maybe it will turn out to be something amazing again.
I don't really agree with that first paragraph. Why would an NES release 20+ years ago color the perception of the new games? Many people playing Zelda probably didn't even play the original NES game, and most people seem to have started with Ocarina of Time. I'm sure there's a very large chunk of the fanbase that have even started with the Wii games. A friend of mine's childhood was Twilight Princess for the Wii, for example.

You're right that the NES game was unlike anything else at the time. It was amazing for me as well. Link to the Past on SNES was even more amazing for me. It's literally one of my favorite games of all-time. Ocarina of Time was very special as well, and to many it's the best Zelda game for a variety of reasons. Majora's Mask is awesome but also very different and a curveball thrown by Nintendo at the time. And the list of good Zelda games goes on and on.

Not every Zelda game has been incredibly well received, though. Zelda 2 for the NES is hated by many and did not get a great reception when it released. Same with Majora's Mask and a few others. So I'm not sure how colored these perceptions really are. It could be that the new game is actually really good.

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March 7th, 2017, 06:56
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most people seem to have started with Ocarina of Time.
Based on what? Who you've talked to?

Which Zelda game was someone's first probably has more to do with their age than anything else.
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March 7th, 2017, 07:05
Yes, it has to do with age. It just seems like Ocarina of Time is the game that really took Zelda to the next level. But yeah, I could be wrong about it being most people's first Zelda game. I just have seen a lot of OoT talk online over the years from fans of the series.

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March 7th, 2017, 07:18
I'd say A Link to the Past took it to the next level, but OoT will always have the distinction of being the first 3D Zelda and that's one of the reasons it received so much attention. It was great for its time, but imo it's one of the worst Zelda games, along with Majora's Mask, in terms of how it aged. That's a common issue with a lot of 3D games from that era.
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March 7th, 2017, 07:26
The first 3D entry in certain series does seem to stand out more. Final Fantasy 7 is another example. That was a big time in gaming, with things moving to 3D.

A Link to the Past is my personal favorite. Ocarina is cool, though. Real cool. Majora's Mask I didn't have the pleasure of playing as a kid but when I found out about it later, man, it has some really crazy elements in it. The whole reversing time thing was really strange.

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March 7th, 2017, 11:13
I love you all.
But it's not worth it.

Just wait till you can play it for $50…that's the system AND the game. and there's only zelda

YOU'RE BUYING IT FOR ZELDA

that's it

so, you know
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March 7th, 2017, 13:57
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Or you can send it back to Nintendo and they will fix it for cheap if anything thing at all. Nintendo customer service is the best in the world.

I think it is designed in such a way that it has less chance to be hacked.
Nintendo says dead pixels on the Switch are "normal" and not a defect

http://www.techspot.com/news/68401-n…ormal-not.html

Best in the world my arse!

Full disclose as to why I don't like Nintendo anymore. About 5 years ago, i had one of their handhelds and I bought some old zelda VM titles from their store. The handheld broke and they game me a different one. Great! Expect that the games you buy from their online store is tied to the fucking serial number if the original handheld and they told me to buy it again!?!?
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March 7th, 2017, 15:21
Originally Posted by Majnun View Post
I love you all.
But it's not worth it.

Just wait till you can play it for $50…that's the system AND the game. and there's only zelda

YOU'RE BUYING IT FOR ZELDA

that's it

so, you know

Why buy the Switch when you can play the game on PC already?

Strangely, I don't think CEMU is entirely legal, but I saw an article on PCGamer about it, lol.
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March 7th, 2017, 15:21
Well when I say "we", I mean people who played the original back in the day. I actually really liked Zelda 2 at the time as well, for when it was made it was a really elaborate and ambitious game. But it definitely wasn't the classic that the original was.

There were some interesting Zelda games released for the DS as well. I remember one where you sailed around in ships, and another where you rode around in trains. They weren't classics, but they were fun and a bit different.

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I don't really agree with that first paragraph. Why would an NES release 20+ years ago color the perception of the new games? Many people playing Zelda probably didn't even play the original NES game, and most people seem to have started with Ocarina of Time. I'm sure there's a very large chunk of the fanbase that have even started with the Wii games. A friend of mine's childhood was Twilight Princess for the Wii, for example.

You're right that the NES game was unlike anything else at the time. It was amazing for me as well. Link to the Past on SNES was even more amazing for me. It's literally one of my favorite games of all-time. Ocarina of Time was very special as well, and to many it's the best Zelda game for a variety of reasons. Majora's Mask is awesome but also very different and a curveball thrown by Nintendo at the time. And the list of good Zelda games goes on and on.

Not every Zelda game has been incredibly well received, though. Zelda 2 for the NES is hated by many and did not get a great reception when it released. Same with Majora's Mask and a few others. So I'm not sure how colored these perceptions really are. It could be that the new game is actually really good.
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