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May 18th, 2017, 09:14
Pathfinder: Kingmaker has been revealed as the mystery game being developed by Owlcat Games with narrative design by Chris Avellone.

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May 18th, 2017, 09:33
While I am not a Pathfinder fan per se, this does look interesting. Especially this bit:

…claim new territories, and build towns and cities.
Would be cool if it had some depth in this area to accompany the RPG side of the game. Maybe an RPG with a bit of lite 4x thrown in?

… though I'm probably over-reaching in those hopes.
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May 18th, 2017, 10:20
Originally Posted by SSIGuy View Post
While I am not a Pathfinder fan per se, this does look interesting. Especially this bit:



Would be cool if it had some depth in this area to accompany the RPG side of the game. Maybe an RPG with a bit of lite 4x thrown in?

… though I'm probably over-reaching in those hopes.
The original module has you build up your city with available resources you claim by adventuring and then rule over it while following the main story.
The gameplay itself is sandbox and lets you make many choices around alliances or killing.
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Sounds interesting, but is it just me or do other people also get slowly tired of Chris Avellone getting used as poster boy for isometric RPGs?
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Sounds interesting, but is it just me or do other people also get slowly tired of Chris Avellone getting used as poster boy for isometric RPGs?
I've been tired of it since Planescape.

I mean, I recognise his talent for writing a certain style of prose - but I think his stuff absolutely pales in comparison to the best in the genre, and the amount of great games he's been involved with are extremely few in number, to my mind.
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Originally Posted by abharsair View Post
Sounds interesting, but is it just me or do other people also get slowly tired of Chris Avellone getting used as poster boy for isometric RPGs?
No. MCA could be the poster boy for a phone book - I'd buy it in an instant.
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The original module has you build up your city with available resources you claim by adventuring and then rule over it while following the main story.
The gameplay itself is sandbox and lets you make many choices around alliances or killing.
That sounds cool actually. I played the Pathfinder board game version which had none of that though - just adventuring.
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May 18th, 2017, 12:52
Sounds like they are copying that old game Birthright the Gorgon's Alliance. Very ambitious game but when you try and do too many features you often fail.
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It's RTwP so it might as well be SCL 2. No buy.
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Originally Posted by SSIGuy View Post
That sounds cool actually. I played the Pathfinder board game version which had none of that though - just adventuring.
There is a board game version?!
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May 18th, 2017, 13:55
Well, technically a card game mostly. It's decent - though some people really love it:

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/…runelords-base
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May 18th, 2017, 14:04
Finally some PF rpg, although not by a well known rpg studios.

It is still better than nothing.
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May 18th, 2017, 14:37
.. Owlcat Games? Who?
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.. Owlcat Games? Who?
Yeah, that was my reaction as well. Looking at their list of previously developed titles doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
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May 18th, 2017, 14:54
All of Chris' characters seem like mental ward escapees so this does nothing for me. Well, Chris also sounds like a mental ward escapee, so I guess it makes sense

I guess he can't get a job for a real studio anymore; can't fall much further than a group that has never published anything on their own. Their taglines all say things like "we barely worked on title A, or we were slightly associated with company B, etc.
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Yeah, that was my reaction as well. Looking at their list of previously developed titles doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Rage of Mages and Silent Storm are both classics.
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Originally Posted by abharsair View Post
Sounds interesting, but is it just me or do other people also get slowly tired of Chris Avellone getting used as poster boy for isometric RPGs?
lol. Yep, they use this guy's name as if the mere mention of it will mean RPG Gold, its so silly… I guess he has a lot of fanboys or something. Meh, for me it has become a negative from an advertising standpoint, speaking as a potential customer of these games… It's like, this guy again? *Groan*
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May 18th, 2017, 15:01
Great I'm really looking forward to see more of this game. I just hope that Tyranny "failure" doesn't dissuade other developers from making these kind of games.
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Rage of Mages and Silent Storm are both classics.
If by "classics" you mean really old, sure.

It doesn't appear that these guys have developed anything but MMOs since 2006.
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If by "classics" you mean really old, sure.

It doesn't appear that these guys have developed anything but MMOs since 2006.
Look, it cannot be worse than SCL
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