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August 7th, 2017, 22:11
Originally Posted by JDR13That's rather the point.
Eh? Why would he have to mean everything he says? It's quite possible for someone to be more sincere at certain times than others. Especially someone who seems as unstable as Cleve.
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August 7th, 2017, 22:12
Oh God, not this again…
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"I cannot define the real problem, therefore I suspect there's no real problem, but I'm not sure there's no real problem."
Richard Feynman
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August 7th, 2017, 22:14
Originally Posted by NewDArtNothing insane. Some of those ideas you will find in the US far-right where they are widely circulated in websites like Breitbart. The previous executive chair of this website is an advisor of Trump now, Steve Bannon.
Also, let's just say he really IS insane. Let's say he genuinely believes himself to be a superhuman godlike figure.
Is that something people choose deliberately?
No, it's a disease.
Do we hate people for something beyond their control?
Yes, if we're morons.
Meaning, we're back to morons.
Some others of his ideas are not publicly endorsed anymore but they are still well
followed.
So, no. We are not back to you.
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August 7th, 2017, 22:16
Originally Posted by NewDArtThat is a very simplistic view on how someone communicates.
You have to pick one.
Either he means everything he says or he doesn't. If he does - he's insane. If he doesn't - then you simply can't know.
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In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams
There are no facts, only interpretations. Nietzsche
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. Oscar Wilde
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August 7th, 2017, 22:18
Originally Posted by MyrthosWell, in the real world - those are the only two options.
That is a very simplistic view on how someone communicates.
I'm not sure it's relevant that it's a simple truth or not.
Again, if he means everything he says - then we can be reasonably sure he's insane. If he does not - then we have absolutely no way of knowing what he actually means and what he doesn't mean.
There's no way around that.
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:21
Cleve spend YEARS to paint himself as an asshole. I'm simply taking him at his word…
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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August 7th, 2017, 22:22
Originally Posted by zahratustraYes, I know you don't actually care about the truth. That's the moron part.
Cleve spend YEARS to paint himself as an asshole. I'm simply taking him at his word…
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:25
ahhhh because you're the only one here who knows THE TRUTH?
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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August 7th, 2017, 22:26
Oh damn.
The politic knowledge of a 3 years old, the self esteem of an eagle and the brain of a worm.
He returns to my ignore list. This guy is a waste of time.
The politic knowledge of a 3 years old, the self esteem of an eagle and the brain of a worm.
He returns to my ignore list. This guy is a waste of time.
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:26
Originally Posted by zahratustraI seem to be the only one here prepared to admit that I don't.
ahhhh because you're the only one here who knows THE TRUTH?
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:36
Cleve Blackmore has a capering id when he gets on the internet. Just lets it fly with little or no filter inhibitions. More people should be like him, though admittedly his thoughts and opinions are quite unappetizing at times. Is he insane? Absolutely not.
Sentinel
August 7th, 2017, 22:42
Originally Posted by NewDArtoh you are wrong. I don't pretend that i know the truth. But, like scientists, I build models based on my best knowledge at the time. And my model of Cleve very much resembles a model of an asshole. But that might just be a pure coincidence.
I seem to be the only one here prepared to admit that I don't.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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August 7th, 2017, 22:43
Originally Posted by zahratustraYou mean, your model of someone you've never met, seen or talked to.
oh you are wrong. I don't pretend that i know the truth. But, like scientists, I build models based on my best knowledge at the time. And my model of Cleve very much resembles a model of an asshole. But that might just be a pure coincidence.
Yeah, that seems very much like what a scientist would do.
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:43
Originally Posted by JackOfOwlsYou must like Trump quite a lot than?
Cleve Blackmore has a capering id when he gets on the internet. Just lets it fly with little or no filter inhibitions. More people should be like him, though admittedly his thoughts and opinions are quite unappetizing at times. Is he insane? Absolutely not.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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August 7th, 2017, 22:46
Originally Posted by NewDArtWell, how to tell you that gently DArt…. scientists never met, seen or talked to the Dark Matter yet they're happily constructing models of it…
You mean, your model of someone you've never met, seen or talked to.
Yeah, that seems very much like what a scientist would do.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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August 7th, 2017, 22:48
Originally Posted by zahratustraMet, seen, talked, judged or applied moral values to.
Well, how to tell you that gently DArt…. scientists never met, seen or talked to the Dark Matter yet they happily constructing models of it…
Yes, that's quite right.
They have a working theory based on their current information.
When it comes to Cleve - we have to assume he's a human being. From that point of view, our knowledge is pretty thorough.
Well, yours clearly isn't.
But, how to tell you gently…. Human beings aren't necessarily what we imagine them to be based on quotes attributed to them.
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:49
scratching the bottom of the barrel there?
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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August 7th, 2017, 22:50
Originally Posted by zahratustraIsn't that your usual I-have-no-more-weak-arguments-left line?
scratching the bottom of the barrel there?
Guest
August 7th, 2017, 22:58
Originally Posted by zahratustraWhy would I like a man who in high probability will start World War III? At least I can distance myself and find someone like Cleve entertaining since he has absolutely no power in the world. Have some brains, will ya?
You must like Trump quite a lot than?
Sentinel
August 7th, 2017, 23:01
Got ya. Now I understand just what you meant.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken
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