Grimoire - Released

I have to say that I have never paid too much attention to Grimoire's development or its creator's politics and moral code. I had a basic knowlegde of what was going on.

I've been watching some let's play videos on Youtube and I have to say that, except for the turning animations and sound design, I'm pretty impressed and tempted to buy it. The price and bug reports are really disheartening though. The feeling of mystery about it and the search for the first reviews and opinions are feeling quite nice, though.

Originally Posted by Myrthos
That I find a somewhat odd position to have. Your statement appears to be assuming that everything he states has to be taken with a grain of salt even if he repeats it over and over again and leaves written records about it. Does the same apply to what you write on these forums?

OH BURN!

Myrth - I never knew you had it in you.

Originally Posted by JDR13
Eh? Why would he have to mean everything he says? It's quite possible for someone to be more sincere at certain times than others. Especially someone who seems as unstable as Cleve.

Originally Posted by Ripper
Oh God, not this again…

It can't help itself. Everytime there is a new Cleve thread anywhere the debate between should I play it based on the man or the game rears its head. Its unstoppable.

Originally Posted by zahratustra
You must like Trump quite a lot than?

If by that you mean trolling snowflakes, even I see a connection. But one does it more than the other.

Originally Posted by zahratustra
Well, how to tell you that gently DArt…. scientists never met, seen or talked to the Dark Matter yet they're happily constructing models of it…

Now you are starting to see the light. Its this kind of analogy that prompted the Greeks to use the same word for spirit and wind.

Can someone fill me in on the politics, racism, blogs, weird views, etc?

I know as much about his personal life as I do about Sandi Gardiners

Originally Posted by SirJames
Can someone fill me in on the politics, racism, blogs, weird views, etc?

I know as much about his personal life as I do about Sandi Gardiners

Maybe I can google for a blog……

I think you can find a lot just here. Just do a search for threads with Grimoire for a title.

I don't know if we can search based on his account. I think its closed.

I'm not really interested enough to search, but I took the red pill a while ago. I'll could tell you if he's crazy or not.

It seems to me like its almost impossible to have any view on the war in the middle east without coming off racist.

If you're for it you're a muslim hating racist
If you're against it you're a jew hating racist
If you think we should just turn the whole middle east into a giant glass crater then you're a nazi racist

The reality is USA wanted ISIS to take over Syria so they could capture it using the new anti-terrorist laws rather than a real war declaration. Russia got in the way of this.

I'd say having a bomb shelter isn't quite as insane as many would hope it is. It's a very dangerous situation.

Originally Posted by SirJames
I'm not really interested enough to search, but I took the red pill a while ago. I'll could tell you if he's crazy or not.

edit:
It seems to me like its almost impossible to have any view on the war in the middle east without coming off racist.

If you're for it you're a muslim hating racist
If you're against it you're a jew hating racist
If you think we should just turn the whole middle east into a giant glass crater then you're a nazi racist

The reality is USA wanted ISIS to take over Syria so they ccould capture it using the new anti-terrorist laws rather than a real war declaration. Russia got in the way of this.

I'd say having a bomb shelter isn't quite as insane as many would hope it is. It's a very dangerous situation.

Holy cow! So you're saying Cleve was right?

I don't know what he said! I'd be interested to hear xD

Let's test it out. You write a post about your feelings on the war and I'll make you out to be a racist. GO!

You know, I think we might already have enough to place you.

I can deduct from the way you quoted a massive block from the post above that it wasn't actually to be clear which post you were replying to, but to save what I said, so I can't delete it, to use against me later.

This would imply that you are opposed to the truth about Syria, which would show you subscribe to the mainstream narrative on the subject, which will naturally place you as a muslim hating racist. QED.

Originally Posted by Arkadia7
Pongo, maybe you can write up a full review eventually for RPG watch… I would read it just for curiosities sake (I'm not really interested in the game, but all the hype and controversy surrounding it has me curious, not gonna lie)

Agreed. If nothing else, I'm interested due to the amount of discussion it has generated over the weekend. A sizable article with impressions would be intriguing, as I find it difficult to encounter one without some form of bias.

I see the Grimoire thread has gone in some interesting new batshit directions.

So, just went to the Grimoire steam forums, top post:

So, about the dev…
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vault-Co
You might want to read this before giving any money or attention to him.

The first thing it says is

Blakemore claims, among other things, that "God produced the Flood to counter the genetic miscreants produced by the union of Nephilim and human women",

This is from the Bible in Genesis. It's quite a fascinating subject, if you're into theology, mythology, that kinda thing. If you ever watched that show Ancient Aliens its pretty much all based off this. Why were there so many angels? Why did people think heaven was in the sky? Were they simply aliens? Then this ties in to the missing link between humans and primates. Did the aliens breed with apes to make us?
One thing Ancient Aliens brings up often is a (highly questionable) translation of some ancient Sumerian tablets whose writing no one has really decoded to this day, which apparently say man was a genetic modification of apes to be used as slaves to mine gold. Apparently the aliens taught the humans farming and things then packed up and left.

RationalWiki is a re-education camp run by nutty left-wing militant atheists. Yeah, sounds like a great place to get info on Cleve from! (This is mainly directed at the Steam post you saw, not you, of course)

Blakemore believes that the purpose of television is to destroy Western society

He's kind of got a point here. While it's surely not the purpose of a TV, looking back I'm glad my parents only let me watch 1 hour of TV a day. I totally would have just sat there like a vegetable never doing anything productive, otherwise.

Of course, I do quote this out of context.

, starting with the women. Once the women have been worked on, they will be estranged from the men, who will enter into a deluded life of hopeless despair

OMG, he's right! All this feminism and lesbian haircuts and stuff is a real turn off. Give me a woman with long hair in a dress who wants to be a mother over a SJW or I'd prefer to remain married my hopeless despair XD

Over the past few days I've been thinking of an RPG based on Cleve's universe.

Originally Posted by Ripper
I see the Grimoire thread has gone in some interesting new batshit directions.

Agreed!

Additionally, this thread has everything it needs to establish a new world record, reaching and eventually surpassing, the number of pages than that other one called '11 days to Grimoire release. Yay' (currently has 41 pages).

The good news is that he's fixing bugs and patching the game at an impressive rate.
The bad news is that latest bug fix has killed a lot of saved games:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/650670…7615856043233/
He says he is "99% certain" that this is the last time an update will affect saved games - I hope so, it would be annoying to be 550hrs in and then find your save game stops working…!

I should be interested in reading the first review that's based on actually finishing the game.

Originally Posted by Pongo
The good news is that he's fixing bugs and patching the game at an impressive rate.
The bad news is that latest bug fix has killed a lot of saved games:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/650670…7615856043233/
He says he is "99% certain" that this is the last time an update will affect saved games - I hope so, it would be annoying to be 550hrs in and then find your save game stops working…!

So, how are you enjoying it so far? Please share the impression with us?

Originally Posted by arthureloi
The price and bug reports are really disheartening though.

What are you talking about. It's cheaper than Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, Torment Numenera, Divinity OS, Wasteland 2… It's cheaper than Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher 3 (obviously). Do you find their price "really disheartening" too? Nope.

By the way Hillary lost guys. Get over it.

Originally Posted by NewDArt
I should be interested in reading the first review that's based on actually finishing the game.

You will rot by then. It will be ~6 months before anyone finishes the game given how shockingly huge it is. No one is even past the first region yet.

Hasn't Corwin done a review? He finished it a couple of times, I think?

So, how are you enjoying it so far? Please share the impression with us?

Too much effort required to play. Sounds are too annoying - Every monster just spams it sounds at you non-stop. Too hard to get information about things, such as item descriptions which are entirely absent.edit: item descriptions are not entirely abesnt. Try to find them!

By the way Hillary lost guys. Get over it.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!