Cyberpunk 2077 - Deep Dive Videos

Can we please stop with the "graphical downgrade" stuff? The price of seeing games in pre-alpha, which everyone seems to want to be able to do, is that things will change. And optimization being what it is, those changes are not going to be an increase in graphical fidelity. It still looks great, and there is going to be a lot going on in the environment.

Originally Posted by JFarrell71
Can we please stop with the "graphical downgrade" stuff? The price of seeing games in pre-alpha, which everyone seems to want to be able to do, is that things will change. And optimization being what it is, those changes are not going to be an increase in graphical fidelity. It still looks great, and there is going to be a lot going on in the environment.

As far as I'm concerned, no. It may be the "price" of seeing things at early stage, but if we are shown things with very advanced lighting and post-processing, and then something more limited come release, then that is a graphical downgrade. Whatever the reason, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be discussed, along with any other aspect. If you happen to be particularly interested in the graphics tech, it might be worth commenting on. I'm not seeing too many folks here up in arms about it.

Hopefully they'll allow a ultra setting on PC which brings the graphic close to what it was in the initial videos, but I guess it is more likely the the original videos was just made for hype, like was the case of TW3 as well.

Also, am I the only one who finds it very funny that they have so much advance stuff and are still manually driving cars? I mean we will probably not even be doing that in 2030… and we already have flying taxis.

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness
Also, am I the only one who finds it very funny that they have so much advance stuff and are still manually driving cars? I mean we will probably not even be doing that in 2030… and we already have flying taxis.

Could just be a decision for the sake of the game of course. I guess sitting in an autonomous car would make for some pretty boring gameplay. Anyone know what the Cyberpunk universe has to say about this?

Anyways, maybe we will have real self-driving cars in 2030. Then, hackers will take them over all the time, and they'll get out of fasion quick?

And honestly, many people here in Germany will probably stick to manual driving cars for a long, long time. Just because they like to. I don't belong to that group either, but looking at the large number of people who still use manual shift in their cars …

Originally Posted by Cacheperl
Could just be a decision for the sake of the game of course. I guess sitting in an autonomous car would make for some pretty boring gameplay. Anyone know what the Cyberpunk universe has to say about this?

Anyways, maybe we will have real self-driving cars in 2030. Then, hackers will take them over all the time, and they'll get out of fasion quick?

And honestly, many people here in Germany will probably stick to manual driving cars for a long, long time. Just because they like to. I don't belong to that group either, but looking at the large number of people who still use manual shift in their cars …

I think that manual driving might be banned on public roads, so that you get to drive on a track or such, or maybe manual assisted driving, so that the car will take over in case you try anything which might risk peoples life.

I do understand it makes sense from a gameplay perspective to have manual driving of course. But it still does not explain the second example, why are the cars not flying? they even do in blade runner. ( Of course that could again be for gameplay or complexity reasons ).

I don't think I was ever hyped for this game and that mainly due to the setting. I like fantasy in my RPG and I also like "epic sci fi" like Mass effect/star wars etc but I find it hard to get into anything in the middle.

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness
Hopefully they'll allow a ultra setting on PC which brings the graphic close to what it was in the initial videos, but I guess it is more likely the the original videos was just made for hype, like was the case of TW3 as well.

Also, am I the only one who finds it very funny that they have so much advance stuff and are still manually driving cars? I mean we will probably not even be doing that in 2030… and we already have flying taxis.

Is one reminded of the infamous suitcase scene from Attack of the Clones:

Originally Posted by Cacheperl
Yah, it will be an absolutely horrible game, horrible graphics,

Even when aware of the institutionalized effect of double standards, this stuff caught off guard.

After checking YT, it is flat, no enraged video about the downgrading, especially from the woke crowd that were specialists.

For a simple thing like assessing downgrading in graphics, double standards still are an emergency.

Eventually found one vid claiming that the downgrade is all diversion: graphics will be better than in the first place (and so far better than the downgraded version)

Somehow I'm more hyped for Queen's Wish. Well, let's give it a few months…

Regarding the graphical downgrade, it also seems almost obvious that there will be an 'enhanced edition' for PS5 which is currently in development, right?

Yeah, I'd probably like it more if I could create my character from scratch and choose to play as a goodie two shoes. I still vastly prefer fantasy but even a great fantasy game, like Witcher 3, is unplayable for me if I can't resonate with the main character.

Originally Posted by crpgnut
Yeah, I'd probably like it more if I could create my character from scratch and choose to play as a goodie two shoes. I still vastly prefer fantasy but even a great fantasy game, like Witcher 3, is unplayable for me if I can't resonate with the main character.

You must have missed the details about character creation. You do create your character from scratch. The only thing you can't choose is your alias.

The usual comparison here is that The Witcher series has a similar approach to character creation as Planescpe: Torment did, or Deus Ex. And most jRPGs to a certain extent. In that, in order to provide coherence of story, and to ensure that story is the most prevalent feature of the game, one is not permitted as much freedom of character creation. That freedom is still much greater than a typical Adventure Game though.