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January 9th, 2020, 14:37
Like the Released thread, also for Most Anticipated we also have a long list.


IDTitleDateGenreNews PostsCommentsRatio
1258Alaloth: Champions of the Four Kingdoms43971Action-RPG58313,8
1350Biomutant43983Action-RPG17744,1
1362Celestian Tales: Realms Beyond44012RPG100
1531Curious Expedition 243891Roguelike131,5
510Cyberpunk 207743937RPG107311128,8
1612Dark Envoy44146Tactical RPG6202,9
959Death Trash43983RPG10333
732Divinia Chronicles: Relics of Gan-Ti44166Action-RPG7101,3
1487Dolmen43952Action-RPG210,3
1596Eastward43997Adventure-RPG131,5
778Eitr43952Action-RPG9494,9
1589Empire of Sin43876Strategy-RPG4132,6
1534Fallen Dungeons44119Dungeon Crawler1157,5
1607Gamedec44112RPG46212,4
1636Gedonia43952RPG241,3
1656Grand Guilds43845Tactical RPG131,5
1315Griftlands43997Card-Based RPG3143,5
1605Haven43936Adventure-RPG100
1263Hellpoint43876Action-RPG9373,7
1606Immortal Realms: Vampire Wars43876Strategy-RPG110,5
1627Isles of Adalar44019Action-RPG3123
1370Jupiter Hell43941Roguelike9161,6
1384Koruldia Heritage44150J-RPG100
1595Langrisser I & II43891J-RPG3266,5
1552Last Epoch43922Action-RPG220,7
1619Legend of Keepers44074Roguelike210,3
1075Luckless Seven43845Card-Based RPG210,3
1495Monomyth43952Action-RPG2165,3
1632Nehrim: At Fate's Edge43997RPG163
1532Neon District43857RPG2103,3
1575Othercide43987Strategy-RPG100
1298Praey for the Gods43952Action-RPG9525,2
1387Realms Beyond43882RPG30106634,4
1623Space Wreck43889RPG173,5
1508Stoneshard43867RPG3266,5
1259System Shock (Remake)43891Shooter-RPG593976,6
1502Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon43922RPG2299,7
1590Tales of Arise43983Action-RPG100
1021Tears of Avia43891Tactical RPG4224,4
1446The Black Masses43902Action-RPG5244
1583The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance43865Strategy-RPG6192,7
1617The Dark Eye: Book of Heroes43952Tactical RPG36015
1615The Falconeer44149Action-RPG392,3
1586The Forgotten City44124Adventure-RPG200
1365The Iron Oath43983Tactical RPG13312,2
1633The Protagonist: EX-144126RPG194,5
1244The Six Dragons43952Action-RPG3205
1550The Way of Wrath43952Strategy-RPG184
1478The Waylanders43983RPG301645,3
1584TRIALS of MANA43945J-RPG142
1245UnDungeon44119Action-RPG142
1274Urtuk: The Desolation43875Tactical RPG3143,5
1491Vagrus: The Riven Realms43983Strategy-RPG23682,8
1539Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines 244034Action-RPG242479,9
1634Vaporum: Lockdown43943Dungeon Crawler2134,3
1542Warlander43876Action-RPG262
1179Wasteland 343970Tactical RPG4462814
1214Wellspring: Altar of Roots43916RPG11957,9
1644Wigmund. The Return of the Hidden Knights43983Action-RPG000
1563Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls43845Dungeon Crawler48717,4
840Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem43861Hack & Slash903293,6
1535Yaga43922Action-RPG471,4
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January 9th, 2020, 14:39
When using the same way to shortlist this to 30 games, we get this list:


Alaloth: Champions of the Four Kingdoms
Biomutant
Cyberpunk 2077
Death Trash
Eitr
Fallen Dungeons
Gamedec
Hellpoint
Langrisser I & II
Monomyth
Praey for the Gods
Realms Beyond
Stoneshard
System Shock (Remake)
Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon
Tears of Avia
The Black Masses
The Dark Eye: Book of Heroes
The Iron Oath
The Protagonist: EX-1
The Six Dragons
The Way of Wrath
The Waylanders
Vagrus: The Riven Realms
Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2
Vaporum: Lockdown
Wasteland 3
Wellspring: Altar of Roots
Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem


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January 9th, 2020, 14:53
Originally Posted by Myrthos View Post
When using the same way to shortlist this to 30 games, we get this list:


Alaloth: Champions of the Four Kingdoms
Biomutant
Cyberpunk 2077
Death Trash
Eitr
Fallen Dungeons
Gamedec
Hellpoint
Langrisser I & II
Monomyth
Praey for the Gods
Realms Beyond
Stoneshard
System Shock (Remake)
Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon
Tears of Avia
The Black Masses
The Dark Eye: Book of Heroes
The Iron Oath
The Protagonist: EX-1
The Six Dragons
The Way of Wrath
The Waylanders
Vagrus: The Riven Realms
Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2
Vaporum: Lockdown
Wasteland 3
Wellspring: Altar of Roots
Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem


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Myrthos, I'd suggest you to rename this thread to "Shortlisting the GOTY 2020 - Most Anticipated"
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January 9th, 2020, 15:22
Does that list (and also the other list) consider only posts/comments in 2019?
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Lol Cyberpunk almost has more comments than the rest of the long list's games combined
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January 9th, 2020, 17:25
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Does that list (and also the other list) consider only posts/comments in 2019?
No, it takes into account all news postings and comments irrespective of the year.


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Lol Cyberpunk almost has more comments than the rest of the long list's games combined
But it also needed more news postings to get to that amount of comments. Using the ratio of comments per news posting, Realms Beyond is on top
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January 9th, 2020, 17:26
Originally Posted by henriquejr View Post
Myrthos, I'd suggest you to rename this thread to "Shortlisting the GOTY 2020 - Most Anticipated"
That is not how it works
We are voting as part of the GOTY 2019 for the game we look forward to most in 2020.
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January 9th, 2020, 19:04
How is Colony Ship missing from the list entirely? 2020 is still the official release date I believe. And it's gotten a hell of a lot of discussion here. It should be in the final list.

For confirmation of 2020 date:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/6…_Playing_Game/

edit: looks like the RPGWatch DB doesn't have the date filled in for the game.
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January 9th, 2020, 19:17
Also King's Bounty II is officially slated for a 2020 release, but not filled in on the DB:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1…ngs_Bounty_II/

It should also beat out some of those others in the top 30 discussion list.
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January 9th, 2020, 20:28
Also doesn't have Black Geyser or whatever it's called.

Was going to vote for:

Realms Beyond
Black Geyser
Baldur's Gate 3

I've read numerous reports that BG3 might land late 2020.

As such I'll hold off voting until these omissions (and others listed by other members) are clarified.
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January 9th, 2020, 20:45
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Also doesn't have Black Geyser or whatever it's called.
I thought about mentioning that too, but couldn't find any place where the devs have ever officially said it'll be released in 2020. Only saw talk of an alpha/beta/whatever release.

edit: the latest "schedule update" post on their forums mentions a beta to be released on March 24 2020, but doesn't mention a full game release date:
http://forums.grapeocean.com/index.php?topic=51.0

I've read numerous reports that BG3 might land late 2020.
I figured the criteria here was probably that it needs an officially stated 2020 release date to qualify. Because if not, there's a lot of other games to consider, like Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, Diablo 4, Encased, Copper Dreams, and Knights of the Chalice 2. Maybe even Starfield or ELEX 2. I don't believe any of them have been officially ruled out for 2020?
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January 9th, 2020, 21:43
the number of games in the database with no or an incorrect release date is huge. So please keep the updates coming so we can update them.
Once updated I will generatie a new overview.
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January 10th, 2020, 01:42
Xenonauts 2 has listed a release date of March 14 2020 on their GOG page:
https://www.gog.com/game/xenonauts_2
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Mount & Bland 2: Bannerlord. Errr, probably. It's releasing to early access soon. Does that count?
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Originally Posted by Myrthos View Post
But it also needed more news postings to get to that amount of comments. Using the ratio of comments per news posting, Realms Beyond is on top
That one is the most anticipated for me

I think that the ratio is more appropriate than just the raw number of comments
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January 10th, 2020, 14:12
The table centralizes bits of information.

A product like Urthuk, that should meet the expectations, is ignored.


Originally Posted by MAHak View Post
Lol Cyberpunk almost has more comments than the rest of the long list's games combined
Like in many other places.

This site regularly spits on so called casual players, mainstream players and the main expectation for the next year matches the same expectation that might be found elsewhere.

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I don't know if it's better, but you could use some derivation of the h-index which is used for scientific publications.

So a game would have an h-index of h, if it has h topics with at least h comments.
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Tortured Hearts releasing in 2020?
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January 12th, 2020, 10:50
Not to say something totally irrelevant but one issue i have with the GOTY stuff is that (as stated by many people in this thread) very few people here have played a majority of those games that are serious contenders; and probably no one here has played all the games in the top 10. This makes the vote somewhat of a popularity vote (where popularity is generated by marketing/thread comments/videos/…) rather than a serious vote based on ones first hand impression of all the games in question.
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Perhaps voters should be required to play some min. number of the candidates to provide an informed opinion from first hand experience? Otherwise what value is their vote esp if they are voting on a game they have never played ?
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Perhaps voters should be required to play some min. number of the candidates to provide an informed opinion from first hand experience? Otherwise what value is their vote esp if they are voting on a game they have never played ?
Perhaps, but there is no sure way to validate the amount of hours that someone claims to have played a game and it would probably be too much work to do so anyway.
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